Many times these comments and questions have come up over the years,

daddysproblem just posed this question on another thread:

One more thing - one thing I really notice around my Dad and looking back throughout my life are his eyes. The window into his scary brain. He watches everyone so intensely. My mom used to refer to them as his beady eyes.


The subject has come up often spread out over the threads, I thought we had a thread about this one one specific issue but can't find it so when I have time I will pull comments from threads where this was mentioned to post here and give our community a place to post their specific questions and observations. Both about the eyes and if you think you really believe they were just crying or acting?

Best described the eyes are the pathway to the soul and without a soul how do we describe what we are seeing or remembering looking back?

Di

One of the saddest aspects of the Psychopath is they can't help it. They can not help who they are and they did not create themselves. I am of the belief and it's being tested now with those fMRI's and all the brain studies ( thank you aging baby boomers ) that the part of the brain that invokes the empathetic response is non-functioning in the Psychopath. Simple as that. The chemicals do not spit out and activate the other parts of the body and brain.

So they are like aliens. And that's where the eyes come in. They are not feeling they are observing. Always. Watching. They are so baffled by the actions of humans that they can't help but stare.

When my grandma died, my Psychopath-daddy's mom, he took pictures of people at the side of her open casket. There's one of me and my son. Then my Psychopath-daddy watched his own loving mother get cremated. With those eyes.

He's astonished.

He's fascinated.

A friend of mine told me after my relationship with the Psychopath was over that the first time she had met the Psychopath, and they had only met briefly that one time, that her eyes seemed "empty", like there was nothing there. Perhaps that is the lack of a soul?

Another friend who briefly met the Psychopath in the very beginning told me that she would defriend me if I went out with the Psychopath. Her first impression of her was literally that off-putting. I didn't tell her at first when I started seeing the Psychopath, but later Psychopath tried to become friends with my friend. I think my friend was both repulsed by her and drawn to her. She thought she was so odd that she didn't really want to be friends with her, yet in a way was fascinated by her oddity and wanted to figure her out. That is what I spent years trying to do, figure the Psychopath out. I never could understand what she was thinking or feeling, so I guess like others, I filled in the blanks based on her words which she carefully constructed.

I've seen it written in other threads that sometimes it feels like the Psychopath is looking through you, not at you, when they make love. Now, I would agree with that. However, at the time, it felt like this incredible intensity which I misstook for love. I would liken it to a predator stalking its prey, that look of intense focus going after what you want.

When the Psychopath left me, the eyes were the scariest of all, a look of sheer evil that I had never seen from anyone. Her eyes bored into me and she said, "You don't know my dark side." It was like something out of a horror movie. It was such a polar opposite to that look of intense focus and desire. I wonder if others have noticed that sudden change in eye contact and even color. They were totally black and glassy in the rejection phase.

Another interesting thing to do is if you have photos of a Psychopath is look at it again, if they are smiling the eyes don't match the smile in most cases.

My father wasn't a Psychopath but when I look at his pictures I can see depression (he was a severe alcoholic and many times depression self medicates with alcohol). The eyes of a Psychopath are distinct with a Psychopath from what photos I have seen and the ones in person.

Our brains are programmed I believe that a smile is something meant, not evil, then match the eyes with the smile and they don't connect with what we think a smile is from a "normal" smile. When we smile it shows in our eyes also, not theirs.

Their smile reminds me more of a smirk.

In regard to smiles, I think my Psychopath has 3 smiles.

1. A goofy coy smile, similar to a smirk, that look of trying to act cute when someone likes you. Usually, these were the pictures that I took of her alone. It was like she wasn't sure how to act in a photo of herself.

2. The domineering smile, like a cartoon cat with a grimace knowing that she has total control over you. These were the "couple" pictures, in which I thought we looked like a happy, in-love couple. Now I look at them and there is me, often with her arm around me, looking submissive and her looking in-control. She liked these pictures best.

3. The nonsmile. These were the group pictures when she was around other people and felt offguard, like at a party. There is that uncomfortable social awkwardness. Instead of an actual smile, it is more like a half-lip raise, a snarl. Everyone else in the photo will look happy, like they are having fun, but she'll look like Elvis.

4. The fake smile. This is the one that "appears" most genuine with lots of teeth. It would usually accompany some pose, like putting her hands in the air, trying to show happiness. I took her photo in this pose, and saw a pose of her as a youth doing the same pose. Both looked entirely fake.


One final comment on the eyes.. The Psychopath wrote to me in a song, "I look into your eyes and I see love." I read into it that she also felt that way. Now I know the comment was literal.

These were the two expressions I saw on my cousin's face most often. It was either these or the cold blank stare - or rage.

looking forward for more articles on your blog Cool to read, worth learning! Keep it up!

This is so true - a smile of a Psychopath is like a weird grimace on his face. I cannot remember my Psychopath to smile normally. It was always weird. A real smile comes from true happiness inside, a Psychopath will never be able to do it quite well. And most of the smile is in your eyes. Ps have dead eyes, thus cannot show any emotion. I still remember the cold deadly stare of my Psychopath as I was staring at him crying my eyes out, telling my feelings... and his face would not move. He had tears in his eyes but that was all played. For days I'd wonder what's wrong with his emotions... There just weren't any.

It is a good way to spot one - once they smile you will immediately know something's wrong. I can see now how my, once, friend had this kind of smile also... I don't talk to her anymore. Don't wanna get in trouble again. I know better.

I have been reading about the eyes and smile of a Psychopath. It just makes me think back to pictures and times. Her smile is so phony, a smirk, like you said. She has beady little eyes that lead into the "nonsoul" of a brain. She is cold, calculating, and demonic.

My dad often smiled when he was saying something really mean. He seemed to always be mocking us with his facial expressions. My sister is worse. When she is lieing, she tilts her head to one side and bats her eyelashes or blinks rapidly and has a big grin. When she isn't doing that, she is smiling like a chesire cat. It's all very creepy and annoying.

I can remember my Psychopath smile every time he told me something that was a lie - it was kind of a "nervous" smile - like a smile with a question mark in it:) Kinda creepy, I hated it and always knew something was going on.

I remember once, the eyes were black as night. It felt like I was staring into evil itself. Like something so filled with resent and hate I couldn't comprehend it. It's the only time someone's gaze has really intimidated me. I have seen anger, despair, misery and sadness in people's eyes. This was different. Only happened once for a brief moment.

James,
Well said. "Like something so filled with resentment and hate I couldn't comprehend it." I also only saw that look once and it scared me to death. It was like looking at sheer evil, and it was in such stark contrast to the way the psychopath had looked at me before. It is pretty frightening how quickly they turn from complete obsession with you looking at you like they want you, which you mistake for love, to sheer hatred of you. And you can see it all in their eyes.

My experience with my Psychopath was he had a creep Cheshire cat grin when he was tormenting me, it's like me pleading during his abuse made him really happy,it's like he enjoyed the challenge, it was so scarey. If I didn't plead he would just hurt until he got tears then he knew I was trying to hide the pain which only prolonged things. He especially smiled when I would try to run and hide from him, or one upped him on a plot like it was unexpected and amusing that I even dare try to out run or out smart him.

His eyes were off and very wrong as well, he had a strange stare his eyes would dilate along with his grin, they were like stickers you were expecting to fall of at any point and see some soulless demon black-eyed living behind them waiting to eat your entirety to bits soul and all. His eyes cut like knives you got a message all the time from them, like your going to suffer. He loved staring me straight in the eyes it was horrible.

When I met him I thought maybe that look was from his home life being so messed and all he had been threw, but I quickly realized that look was from being a sadistic animal after, before he really abused me he was talking about all the poor kittens and cats he tortured and killed, he smiled about there reactions and laughed at how they tried to escaped.

To this day rape face jokes make me angry and are triggering, because there is a face a psychopath makes/has and when it's directed at you it isn't funny at all-you are afraid for your life.

Hi Wandering_Star, welcome to our community. We hope you find the answers you are seeking and are here to help support you.

Di

Thank you Dianne

James, I have only seen those black eyes one time, and it was sadly enough, from a woman at church of all places. She had set herself up as my rival. She hated me the moment she laid eyes on me, and I will never know why. I hadn't been there long enough to have done anything to her. She spent four years making my life miserable, and never spoke one word directly to me until she did the black eyes thing.

I don't know how to describe what she did when her eyes got black that one time, but it was terribly evil. You'll all call me crazy if I tell the story, but I will say it almost killed me. I got so sick I lost my job, had to quit school, lost my position in church, lost most of my friends, almost lost my husband ... it was twelve years ago and I have never been physically well since.

I wanted to say welcome to Wandering Star. Bless your heart.

blue heron

Dianne, this is how I'm feeling. I have no idea why he hated me so much.. he kept trying to get me to be with him, then he'd leave, want to come back, I knew it was different than what I had had before as to dating, buthe insisted I was the one.. when I commited & we married then it was a game & like you describe it was this game seemingly to destroy me.
I don't know if I can recover from this as to the losses/ as you describe the impact is far reaching. When he left, he left town, me with the all the debt, to do all paperwork for everything (I still am swimming in paperwork from it all!)..

When I try to think/ WHY/ what in the world does he have so much hate for..
my family saw the same in him.. my poor parents are elderly & struggling & then to have to watch their middle aged daughter (disabled) to go through this.. it makes me sick.
It's been stressful for them to see me have to deal with all of this..

I felt that he was jealous maybe of my relationship with God, that I want to please HIM (GOD), & am repelled by doing what is not right in God's Eyes.. he would say I was jealous of him but that to me seemed totally absurd as I had a life prior & was content in myself..
They say psychopaths do not like the disabled/elderly/ those weaker than they are...
& I was thinking of this (not saying I am weak as I feel strong on the inside).. but as to this.. it's like they are jealous of those that need.. because they cannot love..any percieved weakness therefore is not allowed/ so it's a set up to destroy. I felt too he loved to see me upset & the destruction was of himself too in his habits.

I try so hard to understand WHY.. why the hate.. why?
I'd better get some rest for thanksgiving.

Why the hate?

It took me ages to find some kind of explanation. This one works for me. There might be others though.

We feel it very personally, partly because we have to deal with the effects of it all (emotional, physical, financial and so on).

But really, all that hate they feel is all about them. They feel deeply unworthy, hideous, monstrous. So they hide it with that super inflated, all powerful ego.

They also feel they have no real 'self'. So they hide that with the endless series of facades they show to people and the world.

All that is projected outwards, onto other people. Innocent people, bystanders almost, who end up getting caught up in all of that (because the psychopath draws them in, very deliberately and with great calculation).

It's not really about us, but it's all about them. And we end up covered in their bile and vomit.


Once I latched onto this train of thought, I felt really free of my dad. Hope you find some strength in that explanation.

Well said.. To me this is one way I think to tell a N too is they have nothing good to say about their, "vicims." When I was with ex h I was happy, I felt he was his real self with me, but it was like it could not maintain, he would Have to be mad, start fights, gaslight, silent treatment, then discard.
I remember when he would do this, getting mad at me, I would ask him to talk it out, if we could try to work through whatever issue/s .. he would not deny me access to him/ he enjoyed the hate/ the arguing.. I hated it, I would beg him to stop being mean to me.. it was just NUTS... CRAZY CRAZY STUFF! it was like he LOVED seeing me hurting.. the whole time was like this.. he'd be nice one or two days then bam/ he would be mad & wouldn't speak for hours, & it was about ridiculous things (a movie, something I would say & he did't like & I am nice person so it was not like I was mean to him.. but just my tone of voice or something then he would cut me off access to him/ rage & silent treatment.. I am SO GLAD to be away from that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).
It is a game. I guess maybe this is what I need to keep hearing /reminding self. I did see if/feel it when he was with me, that it was like he did love me, but he would not allow the love to continue, often more than 1 day was insufficient before igniting some arguement.
I would tell him I loved him/try to give him hugs, ask him to please work things through with me ... never, it was like he was filled with hate/anger, possessed really.. he would block the love I was trying to show him.. this is how it went, always/ongoing with him.

Everytime things would calm down & we were getting into a routine then he would move out. He never allowed stabilization.
That is what was so different than others I have known. There have been a few at times I have been able to see upfront that they have this nature & I avoid them.. but it was like this side he would hide, then when with him/ all hell broke loose & yes it's a game.

Ariela, I can't imagine someone saying all men rape women.. I know it's good to be cautious to make sure & set boundaries when dating (or I would consider that healthy).. most men I have dated have been sweethearts.. it may not have worked out but that's why I waited to marry. It's just that I had no idea this person I was with didn't want to get along.

As to anger ongoing, I think the only anger I feel as to sustained is at ex h Psychopath. Others don't make me angry very easily. Sometimes I am hurt by something a person does, but it fades very quickly. This is the difference too with Psychopaths, they don't allow the love to flourish, the block it, they don't want it.. they say they do but when you love them/ then they set up road blocks.

It hasn't changed my basic nature/ I love people & badly want to heal from this (nightmare), but it will take me time. I've never had a problem with being an angry person.. maybe too nice sometimes that I need to not care as much/ but my anger is at him & how he kept coming back to me then leaving & he took no responsibility for the debt created in our marriage (which mostly was to set back up each time/ flights back & forth when he would send me away or postage to send my belongings across country/ etc etc.. it was expensive in re living/ & plans we had to get debt paid off.. all of it on my lap in the end).
What bothers me too A Lot is that this internet is one of my resources left, & I think he tries to track me at places & comes against me at times .. I'm not sure why because he hated me so much, why he would want anything to do with me ever again. He drives, I'm sure he's back with his ex (though he told me that he believed in the bible & from what he told me unless I cheated on him he would not be free to remarry / that or if I died).. so it seems to me that ALL he cares about is that his needs are met.
He would lie at the drop of a hat/ about me, to get what he wanted..
I did love thes man, I wanted it to work, I tried so hard, he would ruin & block AT EVERY TURN.
To me that has to be what hell is like. To be him, & hate ..... it seems like that is what he is attracted to? it will take a VERY long time for my life to mend. Can't relate to the anger other than at him.

When he left I tried to imagine about the worse case scenerio & it's pretty much been that...
I guess to I am not one to bandaid my life, I could be with another guy.. have had opportunities but I really want to heal & please God.

I guess it just blows my mind (totally) why he wanted anything to do with me ever.. his lies of other half/ a mission from God/till death do you part/ I will never be with another woman/ I would never leave you stuck with the debt/ I will protect you/ trust me/ LOL
grrr

next yr, things should be better..
I'm hitting bottom / there's only one way to go from here!

The anger and vitriol is part of his 'real self' too. I don't see a split there. I don't see it as the powers of evil pressing in and taking over an essentially 'good' person.

To me, that seems like a manipulation, the 'I love you but I'm really troubled and I can't help it' line.

My dad used it a lot. 'I had such a troubled upbringing' and 'my mother was a real b****' so 'I can't help feeling this way, I'm a victim!'. Actually no, I knew he was lying to me, I always knew that was a manipulation.

I now don't believe anything my dad ever said to me. That's the trouble with lying, eventually people just treat everything you say as a lie.

Sorry, I don't by that line when someone tries to sell any of that stuff to me. You're an adult, you take responsibility for your thoughts, feelings and actions, and if you're 'troubled', sort it out. Don't go repeating the same abusive patterns your life over. And not only, but actively seeking out 'victims' in a very predatory way.

Don't mean to sound harsh against yourself 1Healing, just harsh against the **** these 'people' peddle.

This is what people usually try to help me see as well. & I SO agree with you about healing /not latching on, people peddling as you say.. that is huge with me & why I do NOT want to be in another relationship now. I need to heal & get my life together.

I was big on this before I met him, that I have myself in order before dating.. & too why this healing is going to take so long because everything I worked yrs to build is now pretty much gone. I'm starting over & without a car etc.. IF I drove, IF it were easy for me to get around town begin again it may not be as bad. This is what you are saying too & even for myself I have to own the fact /responsibility of repairing.

He took up with me & what I found out later (he said he was divorced), is the divorce had been filed & I am not even sure it was filed/ they weren't living together. My sister mentioned that the file date of divorce was after he & I met.. I guess if someone told me they were divorced I believed they were. He said he was already over her.. she had left him, etc.
I did keep him at arm's length in that I wanted time to know him.. Back to what you are saying & I think this also maybe comes with loss? That one realizes IF they want to be, "healthy," it is hard work, not in latching onto one person but doing the work of healing on many levels.

The Psychopaths seem to? just keep latching onto someone else. He left me, sleeps around (but calls himself Christian?), goes back to his ex prior to me, I think she allows the dysfunction / they seem to live a very chaotic life, drinking, smoking pot, etc. To me? it's nuts.. Plus he was married to me, then goes back to another ex?
WHATEVER!

I hear you/ but it's not total that I have let go of it yet Starry.. I still don't have the support yet to really heal/ it's been a few yrs of legal b.s.
I do not think I can save him, I'm well aware my plate is full NOW & as to finger pointing, anger, etc.. I choose who gets real close to me.. I am not in a position to be with another man right now till I work on /heal my own situation & get that well rounded life back.
There are some things that are in place/but still more changes to where I can get connected as I am needing..

I do hear you.. it's SERIOUS to take someone's life/ turn it upside down/ laugh at them & then latch onto someone else in a continual ego/victim charade...

anyways.. Happy Thanksgiving. I know my own self/ I have to think of GOD/ Loving always
& believing that the reparation of/ is in HIS HANDS.

I do think it shocked him that I wasn't like some women he has been with who put up with his crap.. I did love him, I was commited but I also expected him to do his part..he would have none of that/ he blocked the love/ & would run. it's who he is.. yes. I get that.
God Will Heal the wounds, the binding is in HIS LOVE & in HIS TIMING.
I leave it in HIS HANDS.
still longer yet on my healing journey...

... starry, It sounds like you have come a long way too. I hear your words as realistic. I think it is important to see one's parent in a well balanced sense.. what you write it sounds like you do/ you see that your dad did have assets/ but that he abused these with others. The Psychopaths often are of very high IQ but their emotional IQ is very low, they do not know how to function properly in society with relationships.
In healthy famlies there are boundaries, love with expectations, just as God Deals with us.
It's So important to have boundaries.. it seems that this part is just not in them.
It's all or nothing. They crave to attach themselves but it's the endless cycle of relationships/affairs/marriages..

You have so much awareness of where you are in all of this and how you feel. This gives me a great deal of hope for you.

I think there came a point where I stopped listening to the words my dad was using and just looked at his actions instead. I discovered he had been married a total of six times. Had he been divorced as well? I don't think so. Why would he? Too much bother. I reckon he just omitted to tell the other women about his other marriages. Just like he omitted to tell me about all the other children he had had. Lying by omission.

starry, thank you. You are doing well too.

There comes a time in life when growing up is part of the deal. & I don't think they ever do.
I know situations propell people to deal with issues or parts of their lives the previously did not.. I know that I grow continually in life. For me my faith has been my rock, without it I would be so lost. BUT this is still by far the most difficult situation I have been in.
I have been crying more lately, not that I miss him, I haven't since he left. What is there to miss, a man that hated me & didn't want to be with me apparently, no thanks.
As I say I don't even feel I have hit bottom yet, that as a disabled person I am not getting the help I am needing/ it's so serious.. I do fine when my life is in balance, in fact I do great overall as I love to exercise/ eat right etc., but if there is a huge inbalance then it's so hard on me. That's where I'm at. It's almost as if that was his intent, to knock me completely out of kilter /destroy my prior existance then leave.
I read that in purgatory (& hell) there is a replay of how a person inflicted pain on others.. the ones that intentionally hurt people.. if there is not reparation made in this lifetime to this, there has to be a cleansing before entering Heaven & for the life of me it's the only peace of mind I have in this, that if he only had a smidgen of a clue what he did to my life & the pain/ utter destruction he did to me/ also that has affected my parents because they do worry about me... my siblings are affected but not the extent my elderly folks are.
At some point in time I do believe that people's actions catch up to them. The psychopaths continue to run, they never face this, what they do. I ALWAYS see God & I attach to HIM, that peace, within & with HIM, but the day to day existance of my life has been so changed.

The affairs & marriages seem to mean nothing to them, what you said/ their large ego & then the Psychopaths victims.. it's a cycle ongoing.

I understand that they are not wired like non psychopaths, but it's almost a possession seemingly in the way it plays out & the aftermath. I saw a video on you tube someone mentioned, the guy wrote a book (other than Dr. Hare), & he mentions that the Psychopaths are inbedded too in society & it's like this running of/ by them too, that the battle good vs. evil is in regards... I do love God & trust in HIM but I pray so hard everyday to get past this, to hit bottom finally even to heal.. I yet do not have the help/ situations in place, that balance ...
post all of this.

They don't have a clue who they are as to lying, they live a facade existance & at the expense of others. I so hear you.. It was like this mr. nice guy/ then he would turn the tables every 48 hrs., to a monster, sit & laugh.. at my pain. at least I am removed from that. He was so sick. God Will Heal in time. I really think he is very lost but it's my life I have to mend & tend to.

Guys, from my observation, my Psychopath was aware of his shortcomings in the social-life. He was constantly trying to hide sth and was incredibly insecure around people. Either youre their "friend" from the start or youre the enemy. Neutral is not an option.

When my Psychopath crashed my world I was so confused I thought I was supposed to be like him. I wished I had no feelings. He convinced me that I was crazy coz I had feelings.

Now Im so glad I do. It comes with great price, but its still totally worth it. The way I can experience life now, it's incredible. And not long ago I still thought I would not be able to be happy again, and now here I am, waking up with a smile on my face every freakin day, and I could not be more happy:D

Sure I've my ups and downs. But each time I am so greatful that I am not like him.
I guess true happiness doesn't come from outside, it is inside, if you love yourself, feel great with yourself, you will always be happy, no matter what.

1Healing, invest in yourself. Every little moment you have for yourself. You have to find yourself again, that happy person you used to be still lives inside, she just needs a little help to come back:)
Love yourself first, only then are you able to love others.

Newbird, I think getting the physical help I need would make a difference. I know myself / I have spent a good deal of time developing me, over the yrs & always grow from my experiences in life.. What I seem to run up against ongoing is my ability to physically get past things/ which is more external. I do have peace in my heart & soul/ I love God & love @ all times..
There ARE days I struggle with anger toward ex h.. this I am aware is part of grieving & the losses. But I think what you are saying & I do agree/ that time heals wounds & getting the help LITERALLY, as to easier access to others/ a situation that is more affordable for me now, etc.. will help. It's been such that I really have had to take one step at a time in all of these things. I'm loving/ kind.. I was with him & affectionate natured..
He would say otherwise but he is projecting his own anger.
Too, about these types/ that they are so afraid to truely bond/ intimacy, with others, they do not allow the commitment ongoing..

The friends I did have took me yrs to build/my life & I don't have trouble making friendships but my struggle is getting to people easily.. with my disability.
It is very frustrating to me/ because I DO need help/ lots of help right now, but cannot afford to go on the bus more than a few times a week at $8 a trip/ etc...
Irons in the fire, I have not given up hope.. I have faith in GOD & I love @ all times.
I do have short outs when it comes to exh though.. I admit.. like a brain shortwired / disconnect at my fury some days in all of this.
It will work out in time.

I am happy/ I have too much time/ investing in myself is not where I am stuck.. LOL
if I had a quarter for every hour I am investing in myself/ I may be rich.
I need people.. that's my goal/ to find better access/ more ways to reconnect..
Winters are not good either where I am living currently, they don't clean well at all & when it's snowy or very cold it's hard for me to get out at all sometimes for a week or more.

With ex h, there would be one or two that were above reproach..
He wouldn't keep the balance going in his life.. with others. he had to keep things upheavaled in one or more areas..
I think life is about seeing things in balance.
Some days/hrs. I cringe because of it all.. I see this too shall pass/ YES it is about LOVE... loving @ all times..
Even if one has to fling it in their face & walk away.. THE LIGHT OF GOD.

Yes,the eyes, its like looking into Satin. My mothers eyes buldge and her nostrils literally flare and turn red. Her lips purse and look like ugly bird lips. You can see PURE evil! And then one knows the physical violence is about to begin. I'm in therapy at age 59! I still fear her. And, yes she is still violent. 9 months ago she beat my 80 year. Old father in the head, he had a massive stroke during the beating. She did NOT call for help, she went to bed for the night. My 40 year. Old nephew found her the next am, sitting at the table drinking coffee. My nephew found my father. He survived, but cannot speak. No police report. We wait for her to finish him off. Seems nothing can be done because of no paper trail.

I am sorry for not being able to say much due to time off due to illness. CALL the elder abuse group in your local area.

A general welcome to all the new member that have come to our community, sorry I haven't welcomed you individually.

Di

The psychopath in my life has a glassy empty stare when she is angry. It is terrifying. When i got up to deliver my eulogy at our mother's funeral, she was sitting staring straight ahead because she could not bear to acknowledge that i was addressing her as one of the mourners, so she had to pretend that i wasn't there. It was spooky but i also saw that it was pathetic and absurd....something changed between us in those moments, the power shifted a little from her to me.

Karma: What happens to a Psychopath when they are making other plans.

I am so sorry to hear of your situation! How are you doing these days?

The times I talked to and met my psychopath it was indeed something in his eyes that scared me.

I remember the first time I ever met him. We were at a party at a friend's house and he was invited, as one of my friends was his neighbour. He struck me as a great guy, funny, cool to hang out with, stories he spoke and he facinated everyone. His eyes however, they seemed empty. I at first thought that this person had gone through something horrible, and was afraid or something. When staring in to his eyes I saw nothing, it was just two gaping hole, no emotions, as if a dead person looked back at me.

Only time I ever saw any emotion was when he assaulted me, it was anger, perhaps even desperation.

I think psychopaths feel emotions, but just their own. They can feel joy, they can feel anger, perhaps even sadness, but they can not comprehend the empathy, perhaps why they pull people through what they do. They make people misserable, as if a hint to see how it feels, they enjoy being liked , and enjoy watching people cry, perhaps it's a way for them to try and feel something as we do, but these are questions for me, left unanswerd.

I however never saw my psychopath cry nor did I ever hear about it.