#11353 - 07/11/11 06:43 PM
Re: General Discussion - Part 1
[Re: Dianne E.]
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My son was a fledgling psychopath from the time he was 4 --- his behavior was totally incorrigible and unafraid of punishment. I could never take him anywhere, for he really got off embarrassing me.
This is a long story --- he's now a fully grown man, super rich, super successful and screwing people over left, right and centre, I'm sure.
I haven't seen the psychopath for 23 yrs, even tho we live in the same city. I know he speaks badly about me behind my back --- and I'm sure if I was bleeding to death, he wouldn't lift a finger to help me.
After not thinking about this rotten human being --- I do not wish to call him my son --- it makes me too angry -- I'll from now on refer to him as the "kid from hell". Anyway, after all these yrs, I came across his Facebook profile, which really made me very, very angry. He is, as I said, rich and successful --- and it turns out, married with twin boys. I mean, HOW DARE THIS CREEP HAVE SOOOOO MUCH GOING FOR HIM!!!!!
I'm alone and hurting, and this psychopath has a successful life --- it's too much to bear. He deserves to be in the gutter!
I've just finished reading SNAKES IN SUITS for the second time --- and could find him thru the pages of this book.
Ok, here is why I came here: I'm thinking about wanting to do harm to this creep and need to get support for that.
Feedback much appreciated!
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#11355 - 07/12/11 07:27 AM
Re: General Discussion
[Re: Anonymous]
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What is "interesting" about psychopathic persons is that when they reach an old age they do not seem to acquire sensitivity to others, as we could expect from some other brutal individuals. I am 61 and I've waited a whole lifetime to diagnose my mother, because her absence of affect and sheer brutality has left me in so much pain that it has always been difficult to make an objective assessment of the whole situation. In retrospect, i began my young adulthood with feelings of terror. I ended up emigrating to the us where I was diagnosed with "extensive damage". Psychopaths hit people at a time when they expect it the least, when off guard etc. I believe there's a huge taboo about psychopathic disease in society, especially there's an appalling lack of literature concerning the impact of being raised by a psychopath. Thank you for this forum
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#11356 - 07/12/11 09:44 AM
Re: General Discussion - Part 1
[Re: Sayit]
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Probably most people who have come into contact with a psychopath have had fantasies of getting back at them. But it is really more than that... you want them to actually FEEL the pain they have put you in. You want them to have empathy. You want to bang on their chests and say, "Look at me. You hurt me. See how I am struggling. Feel my pain. Feel something!!" They never will. They can't feel. It isn't even necessarily intentional. They are totally oblivious, clueless, can't understand why other people have pain. Having empathy requires having a concept of future and others. You have to be able to put yourself in their shoes. In other words, he would have to be able to imagine being a mother who loved her son and whose son disappointed her, who was getting older, alone and hurting. He SHOULD be able to imagine this even more once he is a parent, seeing how much he likes being a part of his children's lives and recognizing that connection, but he can't This video is a really good illustration of how empathy evolved in human society. It helps explain how non-psychopaths relate to the world and what psychopaths are missing. http://www.wimp.com/empathyevolution/You will never be able to hurt him the way he has hurt you. The best you can do is work on improving your own life and care about yourself, do some self-nurturing. I am in the midst of that struggle myself, trying to pick up the pieces. There will always be times you remember the psychopath and their negative influence on your life, but it is a part of your life history and the further we move away from it, to close that chapter in history, the better.
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#11358 - 07/12/11 06:40 PM
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[Re: lisondesalpes]
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Hi, I'm sorry, but I had to correct you about "psychopathic disease" --- it's NOT a disease --- it's faulty brain-wiring due to genetics and environmental influences. As far as I know, Psychopathy is not listed in the Psychiatry books.
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#11359 - 07/12/11 06:49 PM
Re: General Discussion - Part 1
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Thanx for your reply.
I know they can't feel and don't care about that. Well, I care, but know the futility of it.
What I really wanna do is deactivate the brakes in his brand-new Mercedes --- he'd surely feel THAT!
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#11360 - 07/12/11 07:23 PM
Re: General Discussion - Part 1
[Re: Dianne E.]
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Hi, Diane:
My question is SHOULD I OR SHOULDN'T I??????
I have a psychopathic son I haven't seen in 23 yrs - he's successful and rich, and married w 2yr old twin boys. I've never met the wife, but want to phone her and say:"I'm so'n so and need to tell you that you must never leave your husband alone w the kids 'cause you married a psychopath and thus are not safe w him - and neither are you, 'cause my ex is a misogynist and wife-beater - and in your shoes, Id take the kids and run."
I saw the boys w cuts and bruises in a dream last weekend.
SHOULD I MAKE THIS CALL ???????
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#11362 - 07/13/11 02:08 AM
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Hi lisondesalpe, welcome to our community. There is a thread here with members who had mothers who were Psychopaths. My Mother If you are comfortable sharing your story we will look forward to reading it and offering any support we can. Di
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#11363 - 07/13/11 02:23 AM
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[Re: Sayit]
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Thanks for correcting me. I should have used the term syndrome instead. But i think i should be allowed to used terms however vague and incorrect to talk about something that is a taboo still and this, even in America. It is so much easier to correct someone on the form than dealing with the subject matter. Besides, putting words to what I've been through is the first step to my recovery if any. The fact that I am calling my mother and elder brother ill is also a coping strategy that i do need to survive. I don't care whether Ted Bundy's wiring was faulty or my mother's, all I know is that if you're around these people, and needless to say there's no escape when you're a child or ado, the impact is devastating and the risk is to become emotionally numb/inoperational or live in denial the rest of your life.
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