(((P Proof))) I just cried for you as I read your story. Its just so heartbreaking the lies he told you. The way he seduced you. How he got you to fall in love with him again. You didn't deserve this. None of us did. This is a hug for the whole Forum, to each and everyone of us that has been stung by a P. (((((((((((((Forum))))))))))))))

Betrayed.

>>>>>he also told me he'd not been with a woman for 2 yrs<<<<<

What's up with that statement? I have heard of other P's making that similar statement. The P told me, once we had moved into our store, that he hadn't had sex in 4 years. I found out later, that he had also told the owner of the first store we were at, the same story. Well, since the P made the comment to me, that he wasn't a faggot, he didn't like young boys, and he wasn't after my daughter ( plus friends and I strongly suspect his dog and various women), exactly WHAT WAS IT that he hadn't had sex with, in 4 years????

Betrayed.

Betrayed,
What are you trying to imply? That they did have sex, but did not want to talk about it or they didn't have sex?
It is weird in both ways, anyway.

Dear Hopefull....I'm not sure I read your posts - i've read and re-read a lot - but looking back i couldn't find yours. are you in "my story"? or did you post elsewhere?

Hi Hopefull. I was just being sarcastic. P's offer up this information, without anyone asking them. P's claim not to have had any sex for a certain time period, trying to imply that they are chaste and pure? or that they are not into casual sex?,or that they are saving it for someone important? or they only have sex with someone they have feelings for? or that they are not promiscuous? when the exact opposite is true.

Betrayed.

>>>>She had a lover for years, known for his weird relationship. She always felt something was wrong with the person but could really stop the relationship. Two years after she really cut him off, he is been coming back, with all kind of really terrible stories, she almost lost her life <<<<<<

Hopefull, Is you friend okay now? Did she get rid off the guy?

Betrayed.

dear betrayed....and all....thank you for your hugs and understanding. it is amazing how some little "jokes" we've said flippantly, sometimes out of nowhere - are right on. it's happened to me too. while the P was here living with me - i started "joking" about all his other women (i'll have to finish my story soon). well, that joke was on me for sure. i just thought he's so in love with me - he can look but he'd never touch - he'd never betray what he wants with me! and the sex thing is hysterical - as i said mine told me that he had just sworn off women, as i had men (but i really did) - like, i said before - i'm a very curious person and i ask lots of questions - and i did with him - i'd ask him - i mean, knowing what i'd known about him and men in general - i wondered how he could last that long. he'd just say he worked 18 hr. days for weeks at his last part time job. and he'd been so burnt by the last woman - that he just put it out of his mind! i thought how much he'd matured!! when he was phoning before he got here - most of his conversations increasingly revolved around sex too - which was a "red flag" i didn't know at the time - i often wondered why he'd tell me this or that - esp. some things with the "last" woman - the one he had married and got burnt by so much. he'd say inappropriate things - but i chalked it up to having been so deprived for 2 yrs. and boy, he was really desiring and saving himself for me!!

other intuitions i had before he got here:
i had saved all the letters (since he had given them back to me many yrs. ago) that i had written him - and i got them out of storage and started reading everything over, including the hurting ones at the end - which raised some hackles on my neck. in the stuff i saved was an article about him and his job - a glowing report on his work - and it said something to the effect "we welcome ____ to the new area. This is a guy when you meet you just can't help but like. He's filled with enthusiasm and his charisma just makes everyone like him immediately". ..... when i read that the hackles raised on my neck again. the word CHARISMA. but i brushed it aside and thought what a prize i was getting! another day i was reading some excerpt from a book about southerners i'd saved from many yrs. ago too - it was about how the good ole charming southern man treats his women - puts them on a pedestal, but at the same time - treats them as their very own objects - however, they have no problem with a good buddy having the same woman - kind of like a brotherhood of sorts - they can be jealous if a complete stranger looks at their woman, but if their best buddy does - well, it's a kind of sharing, and bonding experience for them. and it went on to say how earthy and sexy and charming these southern boys were - like their manhood was always foremost in their minds, something so primal...sensuous. [let me add here that my personal view is that people are people everywhere - i'm not buying any generalization about southerners, or northerners, or whatever - just want to make that clear]....but i was reading this excerpt, and it jogged my memories of his "womanizing" stories from many yrs. ago - and i laid there on the chair in the yard and a chill came over me and i got depressed. and i was thinking that he is really planning to come up here and what am i doing! that night he called and he immediately asked me "what's wrong? - i can tell in your voice something's wrong - c'mon tell me". i told him nothing was wrong. he said "c'mon, i know you better than you know yourself!". i still didn't tell him - just that i'd read something that disturbed me. and he just melted all my fears away. with another talk we'd had i told him my family was worried about what i was doing and weren't for this sudden move - and he wanted their telephone # to talk to them! that didn't happen as it turned out - but if it had - he'd have charmed them too (as he did when he got here - he disspelled all their fears once they met him!!!)

.....so essentially one day i thought i had about 1 mo. before he got here - and the next day the plans were changed and urgent - he had to get up here now or not for 2 or 3 months (his dog was pregnant, and his buddy couldn't keep her (that was the change in the plans - he'd have to stay where he was until the puppies were sold, which would make it much longer!). now, not only is a person coming to live with me in a tiny place where i've always lived alone - but 2 dogs also (however in the kennels - of which i had to impose on a friend to borrow a kennel). the equation changed overnight. so...he's got me so fired up by this time - and can't really wait to get this show on the road and start our lives - that i just said "come ahead". as i said, nothing ventured, nothing gained. and come ahead he did - drove almost nonstop for about 2 1/2 days. (Wow, i must really be something, huh? - he must really love me!)
(have to go now - will continue)

I have posted pieces of my story a little everywhere mostly I guessed through the general discussion folder.I am always scared to post my entire story since it is really recognizable.

dear hopefull...i'll look through. i'm concerned that i'm telling too much - too many details. if the P reads it he'd certainly know, and one or two people he knows.

Betrayed,
It is interesting because it must be a little of a that. The first P I have met was surely promiscuous. the second one was somehow always sounded as if he was criticizing others that were promiscuous, but I am sure there are a lot of things around that. I am sure he was as well but not by high libido but mostly because he had to do it to be where he is in his power world.I am so sure because he doesn't feel anything he doesn't really need someone unless he sexual aroused. There is all that weird feelings about his sexuality. I would say that most of the people thinks he is gay, even the gay men things he is gay. he tell different stories about previous marriages. nothing seems to be clear. to conclude, something about relationship and sex will pop up no matter what that would trigger questioning.