Well, as we all know, the Psychopath controls.

Tough day and night...but I will now look on the bright side of things. The Psychopath' mother and sister will have her forever. I won't. Her father is an idiot. I am trying to be the bigger person here, can't you tell? Its really hard when you see your family suffer at the hands of a nut case.

My grandson stayed with his mother and would not go with his dad for the week-end. He told his dad he had too much going on, and he did not want to go with him. Dad ask him why he was mad, and he said he didn't want to talk about it.
She loves the drama.

Her current husband is so stupid. He has no idea what is in his future with this loveless _____.

I am venting. I can do it here because you understand. It does help.

One step at a time...next it will be before a judge.

This sounds pretty bad, huh?

I am just sick to read of this development, the last I read your attorney was sending a letter and someone to go there with your son to pick him up?

I know you will keep fighting. People can't just decide how to follow a court order based on their own whims, except a Psychopath who has their own rules. Her refusal to allow him to visit and we all know it is her giving out the orders will not bode well in front of a judge. Is there some sort of emergency filing your attorney can do? I hope her actions will be what sinks her boat. I hope a GAL attorney can join the legal team to get him out of there.

I am so very sorry but one would think I wouldn't be so shocked, I was so hoping for some good news.

Vent all you want, I don't even know her but would like to cause her great harm and I am no where near a violent person but the idea of a baseball bat to her head crosses my mind.

I cry for your pain and we are here for you. Please think of this as the first step, now your attorney needs to play hard ball. Your grandson is fortunate to have a loving family to put up the fight for him, I am sure our members who were raised by Psychopaths would have dreamed of having a Grandmother like you and your son fighting for them.



Please keep up your hope, they are not only idiots but evil. Keep fighting and beat her at her own game, your Grandson is the pawn in their evil world. You have an excellent attorney, now he needs to take the gloves off. He had to make this first move, this isn't the end. This is why we have a system and I pray it works, I have faith your attorney isn't going to take this and let her off the hook by her snubbing a court order for visitation.

Di

As you can see everyone here needs to vent.

Your grandson will see through the mask of sanity occasionally and hopefully he will feel he can turn to you and poor his heart out - perhaps even admit he was wrong about his mum if he wants to. This may take a long time and when he eventually does turn it could very well be a vicious 180 turn against his mother - this creates its own problems.

One of the most powerful steps is knowing that the person you’re in conflict with is a Psychopath - if only her new husband could work it out. They're all so similar - manipulative, drama creating predators that love conflict, love to illicit painful emotional reactions from people and love to play everyone against everyone else.

Things seem bad now for you but I'm sure they will get better. It's all part of the psychopathic emotional roller-coaster that so many people on thes forums have experienced.

SOP

Thanks so much for understanding. Yes, I would love to take a baseball bat to her. I am not a violent person either, but a Psychopath can make you want to harm, although I never would. I am nurturer and a caring an loving person. I can't tell you what I feel towards her. I can't pray for her. She is evil.

I could hardly bear the pain that my son had to go through again by having his son reject him Friday night. He spoke with him for a couple of minutes and then handed him his child support check to give to the Psychopath.

I talked to the attorney today and he is getting the contempt papers ready for my son to sign. He is going to ask that a GAL be appointed to my grandson. Thanks Di for suggesting this. But, I'm sure the Psychopath is planning a big hit for the court...lies of course. But, she will have to have a reason as to why she isn't making my grandson go with his dad other than he dosn't want to.

I do hate that my grandson will have to deal with the fact that his mother is evil, but the sooner he does, the sooner he can get the help he needs. Most of all, the sooner he can get out from under her infulence and live his life.

The child has never had his own life. He doesn't know what it's like to live without lies and manipulation.

We have a great attorney! I told him we are counting on him to get my grandson out from under the influence of this dragon.

Hi, a great attorney is what you need and am so happy you have one in your corner. One way to look at it is that her denying court orders doesn't bode well in the eyes of the law. You just can't on a whim decide to take court rulings and translate them into what you think they are, well unless a Psychopath is involved.

I am not a violent person in any manner, I returns bugs outside if they should get inside by mistake. I toned it down, I was really thinking in terms of guns but we all know that violence and evil doesn't translate into those being our actions.

I am glad to hear a GAL attorney will be involved, the few I looked up in your area looked great, I liked the older lady who said she doesn't get pushed around, however a male GAL may also know how to fight as hard being a father themselves.

I thought your son was going to show up with someone else, what happened there? Did your grandson come out to the car to deliver her message?

In a way it is a good thing she is snubbing the court order, that won't give her many positive points along with putting your grandson in the middle to do her dirty work in denying custody. Any rationale adult would not put a child in this position.

You will win, you have it in you and can take the burden off your son and not harm his health anymore than necessary.

All my best thoughts and thanks for letting us know your progress. I am sure there are many grandparents out there reading your story and will hopefully find the inspiration to take action. If we don't protect the children, who will.

Di

Hey Di,

Yes, my son had my son-in-law in the car with him and a Private I followed along. My grandson came out to the car in his socks and talked for a couple of minutes. All he said was he had a lot going on with school and sports. My son said quote "you don't have too much going on to spend time with your dad." My son asked him why he was mad at him, and he said he didn't want to talk about it. Those have been his words for 14 years when we asked him if something was wrong.

I am going to be positive about this. I have to believe in out system. Our attorney said that my grandson can't just decide not to go and visit his dad for no reason. As you said, the judge will not look favorably on his mother for not making him go. But, she will say it was his decision, and she could not physically make him go. As the attorney said, she makes him go to school and everything else he does is mandatory.

I just hope it won't take too long. I asked the attorney if he could put her mother and sister on the stand. I don't think they would lie for her. They know how evil she is. He said he could. What is your opinion. Do you have any suggestions as to any approaches to take with her. We have to get her in court. Now is our chance to shut her down and let her know we mean business.

Any and all suggestions would be appreciated.

Hi, I hope your attorney can call for an emergency court date, this has gone on with her games for too long. If you think her sister etc. won't lie, I wouldn't count on that but a sharp attorney will call them on their lies. I am sure there is some way to get an emergency court date since your grandson is at risk. I am sure GAL attorneys and your attorney deal with this everyday.

Push it into court as quickly as possible, that would be your best bet. Since your attorney knows she is a Psychopath, he should be able to push her buttons quite well and get to her.

Find out what kind of grades your grandson is getting in school and see about getting information from his teachers, how is he behaving, his school scores, is he withdrawn and any information you can have for your attorney (ask him first). I am just guessing but I would bet is school record isn't so great with all the pressure she has on him at home.

Now that her x is out of the picture I am sure she is already lined up with men, it would be interesting to put her under the radar of a PI to see if there is any dirt. You know she isn't just sitting home playing good mommy but may just have a parade of male visitors. It would be worth the expense just to see if you can dig up dirt.

Does she work? If so what does your grandson do while she is at work? I am betting the farm she is out dating and leaving him home alone, dig for dirt.

Di