One of the key-factors that define Psychopaths is their abnormal reaction to alcohol.
Ps show an incredible desire for alcohol. My Psychopath could not go to a party without drinking. I confronted him at the beginning of our relationship and told him I cannot be with a person who drinks and acts like this, and he of course persuaded me that he can change. Then he would go out and get drunk like hell when I didn't know.

And while he was drunk - he behaved like crazy - got in a fight, was rude, also to me, the dead-stare was "on" all the time. He looked like a different person. I told him he became a monster and now I know why...
My very good friend who also knew my Psychopath told me recently that when he saw him drunk he looked like a mess and totally different.

It seems to me all of the Ps cannot resist any kind of temptation, that is why they are like animals. They lack the basic human skill to control the impulses. My idea is that Ps are really like animals. They don't really feel good behaving like humans. They have to wear this masks, but I think it's really uncomfortable for them. It has to be.
So they probably use liquor to "set free" for a moment (I remember my Psychopath talking proudly of times when he was drinking for days!) - and then they can put the blame on alcohol.

Just to get a picture - imagine for a moment (scary as it may be:) that you live in a world of Ps. You have to pretend that you are one of them. Thus act like them. I think it would be really hard or almost impossible for us to do, but it gives you kind of a picture of how they must "feel" not being able to be themselves. Kind of like caged animals... I remember my Psychopath being obsessed about freedom...

What do you guys think? What are your observations? Maybe some exceptions to the rule - a non-drinking Psychopath in your history?

Hi, without a conscience they lack the ability for any form of insight



IMO,they are never uncomfortable, they will only act that way when caught doing something wrong. They will never acknowledge to another "human" or themselves because it is not part of their make up. We would be uncomfortable because we have a conscience. If they act like they are uncomfortable it is all just an act to worm their way out of a situation because after all they are the world's biggest victims.

Di

I think the alcohol lets the "mask" slip easier due to how alcohol functions.

Yes, my experience is either all out blow out sessions or focussed abstinence for weeks as a detox for the body. Also quite obsessed with the body and kind of vain about physical performance (reminded me a bit of Charlie Sheen's rants). Funnily, on one or two occasions of drunkeness the mask slipped a bit and he called himself a loser which astonished me.

Alcohol has an effect on inhibitions. Ever been to the company holiday party and see the guy who crunches numbers and hardly speaks and then has a few too many and is on the table dancing with a lampshade on his/her head

I would think drinking and being a Psychopath would be real mask dropping time.

If a Psychopath drinks too much I would say watch out and get away unless you want to be in the presence of pure evil.

Di

I'd been waiting for my daughter to come home smelling like marijuana, or with alcohol on her breath since 9th grade. I realized some time ago that it won't happen.

She called me about 6 months ago right after I had dropped her off at a party. She had been looking forward to it since she was invited. We haven't known much about the people she spends time with for a while. She had turned against all her childhood friends, they had all said or done something that made her want to get back at them, and I'm sure she did... Anyway, a few kids were using drugs at this party and she desperately wanted - needed to get out of that situation.

The pool she lifeguarded at took four guards from the pool to get a drug test this summer. One guard quit when she was selected, another was fired when the results came back. I could tell (before the results came back) that she would pass. She showed disdain for the "druggies". I concluded that she was unwilling to lose control. She has no interest in alcohol at all.

When she was taking medication prescribed by her doctors - she had been prescribed many different meds. over the years - we found a bag full of pills in her room. She had been spitting them out. We then monitored her actually ingesting them, but my son saw her put her hand in her pocket afterwards one day and told me. She was slipping them out of her mouth. We had seen her swallow, so must have been under her tongue or something. We were despondent over this, and eventually just gave up. The Dr. could not believe that we could not enforce her med intake, but it was impossible.

She will not take anything that affects her mind, even the drugs that her doctor so convincingly told her could improve her life and behaviors and human interaction.

I don't know how this squares with "typcial" Psychopath behavior with medication.

This is interesting. I remember my Psychopath also not wanting to drink - once he knew that I would leave him if he acted again like he'd used to when he drunk and took drugs. But he drank anyways, just without me knowing. With me though - not so much. He seemed to control himself. So I think it is possible. They are aware of the mask they put on. They are aware that their real face would get them into real trouble.

When he beat the hell out of me - after drinking too much, he then after the splitting told everyone flies about me. And tried to persuade everyone that he doesn't drink. But I know he was drinking heavily and even saw him once totally drunk and he almost beat me again.
When they loose it, it's over. This is their real face. The pure evil.
It still amazes me how they manage to put on this mask of perfection.

This rings true!
esp that they cannot resist temptation, alcohol (desiring use & pot, he was tempted back to that lifestyle that he had left before we met/ he desired to be back there, as if it was something better? was Wierd YES).
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This post rings so true to my ears/eyes. I was involved with a Psychopath on and off for 13 years. I was ignorant enough to get back with him a few months ago, and in July we moved in together. That only lasted 3 months due to his drinking. He would blow all his money on booze and not help pay any of the bills. He was sober for maybe 5 days straight, but then would drink and state how he hadn't drank for X amount of days so he was allowed to drink. Then he got a better job (which lasted a full 2 weeks) and every night he would come home with alcohol on his breath. Then he would justify his drinking and say he was allowed to drink b/c he worked so hard daily. He was a mean drunk, would mock me and was a flat out bully. He couldn't just have a few drinks, he had to get blazing drunk to the point of not being able to stand up (which I actually liked when he was that drunk b/c he was out of reality and not as mean) but it was getting him drunk to that point, which of course if he was drinking around me, his fighting with me would over-rule that drunkenness. The dead-stare was there after 1 drink and his rudeness, anger, etc. were all there. He would go places and cuss people out just for the wrong looks or the wrong questions. He was a ticking time bomb, waiting to get arrested for something. The drinking and driving drove me absolutely insane b/c he was driving my vehicle. Then the drugging started and frequenting bars while he claimed to be still working. Lies.

He was just like the animal you described. That was the tipping point, his alcoholism. He wasn't as mean and paranoid when he wasn't drinking BUT then again, that was all an act. His mask was off to me when he was drinking/drunk. And he'd always say 'How's come you are the only person that says I'm mean when I'm drunk'. Well could it possibly be because I know him inside and out?