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#12413 - 12/06/11 10:20 AM Re: How do I stop feeling bitter and angry? [Re: starry]
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What is difficult for me to wrap my head around is how they claim to be the victim, everytime.

In my life prior to this person, I had a well rounded existance that was stable. It wasn't perfect but it was overall stable. He undid all of this, very methodically & purposed to where my life doesn't even resemble what it did before. He wanted me away from my faith of origin, those connections in regard (practicing the faith, etc), I moved, he moved us over & over; he wanted us to follow through on supposed mission from God & EVERYTHING was at my expense. He walked away.. dismissed himself from it all/ & would then say, that he was abused.

HUH? He would suck me in & spit me out, until I as toast/ in debt/etc. I had to sell property that I took a huge loss on & had noone to help me sell it which would not be a big deal but I couldn't even get to it so I had to everything via the telephone which was insane. The help I did get cost me a lot of money, & it was not in a way where I could have gotten sold on my own. Anyways, what nauseates me to no end is their continual merging with others (promiscuous lifestyle/multiple marriages) & in the name of God is what ex h Psychopath would do as well. It feels to me like soul rape.

I do not believe I will recover in the respect of making sense of it all & since I wanted to marry one time it's not easy for me to think of dating again/ although at times I do & am processing in regards. I want to be out there again/ have relationships, I miss being touched,hugged & kissed & I do think of the other men that I have met since he left/ of which I do have more feelings for. Noone did me more wrong than ex h Psychopath. IF he had wanted out, if he didn't want to be with me he could have ended it early on, but it was a game/cat & mouse/ toy with (me), in the name of GOD, a mission, other half. It is a con artist. I'm guessing he goes about sleeping with whomever would pay the rent/ having affairs & looking again for his other half/soulmate. No other person has strung me along & kicked me to the curb as this. The disability I have causes me many limitations when my life is not set up to where I can function well & he made sure to undo all of what I had. The whole of it is surreal yet to me/cruelty beyond belief.

Starry, I had a therapist when I was still with him tell me that she was concerned about me & my safety. He was gone at the time & then came back but she had said at that time she didn't have a good feeling about it. The incidents of his packing my bags at drop of hat, making me homeless numerous times, many other instances, & to this day & likely for a long time to come, it will be of repair from the damage he caused. I believe we answer to GOD & I can say, I forgive but I do not forget. Forgiveness to me means I do not go back, that I don't pretend but that I live in reality.

It's like having a storm of unGodly proportion come along & wreak havoc on one's life. The ONLY insurance I had was my relationship with GOD/ ex h Psychopath walked away with everything else.

My rebuilding will take years. It is beyond human understanding.

I appreciate the forum, insight/s .. Starry when I read your replies I am aware this was your dad, your biological parent & it is important to your psyche that you see things in balance, his positive traits along with the negative; which is the way people do need to see others anyway, in balance (& you do).

The thing is with psychopaths they never live a life of balance, it's continual upheaval/chaos/undoing..

The whole thing was a joke to him, no different than a computer game; I meant nothing to this individual. When with them/ they force the person to focus on them, not on anything outside of themselves, a greater purpose is not allowed (by their addiction to the chaos/arguing). It's feined, mentioned but the stability is never permitted/ thus the focus remains on them. THAT is what became so clear & why it was easy in the end to let go. He was like a little kid, wanting a mother & forever seeking, "time-out." He got what he wanted.


Edited by 1Healing (12/06/11 01:06 PM)

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#12414 - 12/06/11 11:31 PM Re: How do I stop feeling bitter and angry? [Re: 1Healing]
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Originally Posted By: 1Healing


I appreciate the forum, insight/s .. Starry when I read your replies I am aware this was your dad, your biological parent & it is important to your psyche that you see things in balance, his positive traits along with the negative; which is the way people do need to see others anyway, in balance (& you do).



Thank you for that.

But he has no positive traits. Not one.

A child needs love, comfort, support. He gave me none of that. And there were a million other things he chose to withhold from me (sleep, food, clothes...).

No, I can't find any positive traits about him at all.

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#12415 - 12/07/11 10:32 AM Re: How do I stop feeling bitter and angry? [Re: starry]
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I have to agree with Starry, I could spend the rest of my life and can't think of a single aspect that is positive about a Psychopath. I can think of a million of ways they destroy and destruct everyone in their path and can't think of anything positive they offer the world.

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#12416 - 12/08/11 10:38 AM Re: How do I stop feeling bitter and angry? [Re: Dianne E.]
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They seem to be good at taking. One can give & give & they take. Relat ion ships are a two way street. Takes commitment/interaction.. give & take. In my adult life I am big into boundaries/ have been for yrs. I did end up with walls around my life but frankly I think a lot of that is also that I have been burned. The walls Are gone BUT I am still into boundaries. I do not give & give when I get nothing back. It's one thing for me to tithe for instance, or to do what I have to do in life, for the order of things, but with people, I think it's imperative to have boundaries, direction, & for those one is close to, give & take.

I am repulsed by disorder/chaos/ drama.. Whether it's online, in my own life, etc., I will detach from a situation that is way out of kilter. Those I am close to I work hard WITH THEM but if they block me at every turn/ run from/ will not talk thru & work out things/issues/ etc., to an agreeable state, then I can see it's NOT HEALTHY & I'm not afraid to walk away. The ONLY time I felt this was not an option was when I was married.. because of my vows I took which were binding in my eyes, HOWEVER he didn't see it that way & he was the one that LOVED chaos & dysfunction (in other words he walked, & oh well he wasn't wanting to be with me/// & for the life of me I have no idea why he married me.. if I was so repulsive to him that he had to fight/argue/come & go & leave me in HUGE debt).

Where I see such extreme dysfunction in society, relationships, the order of.. is where there is not a give & take. I don't/can't control others, I don't want to, it's ridiculous to even think a person can do so. My own belief system is one of free will (Christianity). God Allows us to choose/make choices in life!!!

What I remember with ex h Psychopath is this continual wanting to work through things... I would get up each day happy that I had him in my life, thinking what I would do that day, clean, volunteer, dinner, whatever it is.. would tell him I love him, but at each turn it seemed he was not happy/ would want to argue/ fight, etc. It was NEVER EVER about happiness, peace, give & take, solidity. Waht he GAVE was disorder/fighting/complete & utter unhappiness of.. whatever it was he chose that day. It was CRAZY.

I see a lot of that with others too. I've spent most of my life alone as in single. I HAVE to get along with myself.. LOL I HAVE to enjoy my own company. So I guess it just blows my mind when I see these games people play with each other. To me a relat ion ship is give & take.. like.. here I am, this is who I am.. can we work on..???? this /that etc.

Also I have not had the luxury of leaning into one person, I HAVE TO have a wellrounded life, friendS, get along with others that I am around because in order for my life to work since I don't have one person to lean into .. & ideally healthy marriage people DO work through things & DO have a well rounded life.. it takes time to adjust in a marriage BUT it's part of the goal (except for when with a Psychopath).

OVERALL I feel happy/at peace & those in my life that are around me like me it seems.. if they don't I can sense this & back off. I don't have to control people or believe that everyone is just like I am. Life IS about give & take. ie.. here's what I have to offer .. can we get along? that sort of thing. It has been nails on chalkboard for me over my lifetime to watch the arrogance that I see in some. I LOVE, & WANT TO get along with people, I WANT TO make a difference.. It also nauseates me to no end that I spent all that time with ex h Psychopath & I am sure he would not have one nice thing to say about me.. why was he in my life? why?

Something too I notice about some .. is the ones who are in dysfunctional relationships/marriages many yrs & have gotten comfortable/making excuses for another & then ongoing throw others under the bus.. I guess I am way too upfront /direct of a person to wind up like that/ & to each their own.. but leave me out of the crackerjack mess. IE if I was married to say, alcoholic husband & he was drinking I am NOT going to pretend he isn't, I would seek help (ie alanon), counseling etc to continue to work on.. but I see a lot of folks that PRETEND & make excuses for.. that's not me. I did take my vows with EVERY intention of keeping them & I didn't walk he did.. & I am NOT judging someone else for leaving a marriage but I know who I am.. & too I told him this upfront/ & he said he was the same exact way.. he would NEVER leave me & he would do EVERYTHING POSSIBLE for us to have a good life.. LIES LIES & MORE LIES. What do they do fabricate a new reality for each person they are with? I guess I am REALLY confused some days/minutes in regards.
Just feeling upset today.. at immaturity & disrespect that seems to be so rampant in society..the arrogance of/psychopathy/ drama.. YUCK!
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Edited by 1Healing (12/08/11 03:17 PM)

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