Is this the same thing as Fathers 4 Justice? Just had a look at their website. I mostly agree with their cause - and if their objective is to have the family laws revised, and the court procedures and qualifications of court officers looked into and improved, then their objectives are pretty much parallel to ours. It strikes me that, with this brewing, now would be a good time to set up our own lobby group to push for revising family laws with respect to P's in general and child abusers in particular. Also that we would do well to try to get Fathers 4 Justice on our side, as well as to co-operate with their cause, in the hopes that a better all-round solution could be achieved.

I agree with them in so far as I believe that the starting point for negotiations of custody agreements should be 50/50 custody, but would like to see stringent checks made by more than one fully qualified person on any allegations of child abuse etc made against either of the parties. And laws that will fully protect the child against such a parent.

Hi Ali

Yes I just realised I hadgot the name wrong, sorry. it comes from rushing too much. I totally agree with what you are saying - it would be great to collabotate with them and have a loby group ourselves.

keep up the ideas.

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