Recently, the p I was involved with was checked into a prominent psychiatric hospital.It's a hospital that is very difficult to get admitted to, unless the person is a danger to his or herself and/or society.

It got me thinking. I'm assuming this person has shown something that would warrant admission...whether the symptoms displayed are real or not, I don't know. One of the thoughts I had was that there was some severe depression involved, but then I realized that it wouldn't fit in with the whole p mindset, or would it? Then I realized that it's been extremely cold out this past month and without a "host," this parasite has undoubtedly latched back into the medical system. A person without a home and nobody to dupe would most likely seek out warmer environs in subzero temps, right? Could it be that simple?

Hi TR,

"Could it be that simple?"

It's possible of course but, I believe, unlikely.

A few observations:

If, as you suggest, the P is homeless and living on the street (in itself an unlikely scenario), he/she would not be taken to a "prominent" hospital straight off the street, but rather be taken to an ordinary psychiatric 'holding place', i.e., a hospital for people without expensive medical insurance. Of course, this is assuming that the P is in the US and without private medical insurance. In Canada, medical insurance is different and the same is true in England and Northern Europe.

For example, in NYC there are a few psychiatric hospitals that are used as 'holding places' for the homeless, who need psychiatric care for one reason or another. As far as I know, these places are VERY unpleasant.

You write: "...the p I was involved with was checked..."

The words 'WAS checked' indicate that the P was admitted by someone other than him/herself, and if that someone other is the police, then the P was likely pretty far out - some P's do take drugs and drink excessively. If the P was admitted by family, the reason why could be anything. However, as far as I know, a P rarely if ever, commits suicide, although they are known to threaten with doing so, since it provides a LOT of attention and victim status a la, "poor you". This is fodder for the P, who thrives on attention, positive OR negative attention.

However, assuming that the P has expensive private medical insurance with extensive coverage, then yes, the P could have been admitted to a "prominent" psychiatric hospital.

More importantly, why I can easily understand your desire to know what the P is doing, it is not a healthy preoccupation. By obsessively thinking and worrying about the P, and what he/she may do, you are kept in thrall because the P still has power over you, albeit in a different way than before and you are therefore unable to get on with your own life.

It is right and also wise to be aware that a P can be dangerous if thwarted and to take precautions by not putting yourself in situations where you are in the 'line of fire', so to speak. The NO CONTACT rule works, but no contact also means not spending every moment of the day thinking about the P. It's very difficult, I know first hand, but every time you catch yourself obsessively thinking about the P, mentally use the CANCEL button. It works!

Of course, it is also possible, perhaps even likely, that you feel safer thinking that the P is in a psychiatric hospital.

In any case, I believe you are correct in thinking that severe depression does not fit with the whole P mindset and that a P could easily dupe the authorities, police, doctors and so on.

Stay safe and try not to think so much about what the P is doing or not doing.

Nan

Hi TheRide, if I may ask, how did you find out that the P was in the mental hospital? Nan is right, P's can and do fool professionals all the time. I am suspicious that this is a ploy to get your attention and concern.

Di

Since there are legal concerns surrounding this case, I have been made aware that this p is in a mental hospital.

This p has used fake suicide attempts as a method for extricating him/herself from situations when "the jig is up." Since this p has been in the hospital, I ofcourse, have not been made aware of details, but I would imagine that this p posed a threat in some way, either to self or society. I know it's a ploy though.

As for obsessing about this p, I'm doing my best not to do so. Since this all came down weeks ago, I've given up on trying to solve the mysteries surrounding the situation and have really moved on with my life. Yes, there are some loose ends and I'm still adjusting and reconfiguring my life as a result of this p's actions, but all in all I've moved on. This p came from out of state, but since the most recent fake suicide happened in my home state, he/she was admitted into the emergency room. From there, there was admission into two psychiatric wards, with the most recent admission coming a couple of weeks ago.

Since this person has burned all bridges back "home," he/she cannot return anywhere, and the sanctuary of a psychiatric hospital, I'm sure, is better than being out in the cold attempting to scam someone else.

As for medical insurance, I believe that this p somehow has some. I'm not at all sure about this person's finances, but it would seem there are next to no assets. I do believe, however, that this person does have some form of medical insurance. I don't know, and as I've said, I stopped obsessing over the details about three weeks ago.

I just hope it's over.

well my curiosity got me nowhere but to i should have stick to the no contact

he left a message on my cell, last week, saying that his grand-father die, i was thinking maybe it is a ploy to get me to talk to him because i still don't see it in the paper

his death happen the next day of my father's birthday and death
so i was thinking how special this was (Hum!what a slimy excuse for myself to talk to him again)

so then again he calls
i talk to him, telling him all the reason why i should not be with him, that he was a pathological lier and a con artist and so on and he answered, "it took me 7 years to figure this out!"
so i hung up on him, that was last thursday

the feeling of wanting to see him was ridiculously coming back to me and i know that is not my destiny to have contact with him
so tonight a little while ago he calls and i talk to him
he says it has been 3 months we haven't seeing each other and he wants to be with me, he tried to see other women but he wants me and wants me to go to the funeral, he wants me to pick him up friday morning and go with him, he says he needs my shoulder to cry on
so i ask him where do you live, because he had mentioned to a lady friend of mine that he had his own apt. and phone,
which i had been begging him to get his own place
well that was a joke
he is still at his mother's place
so i told him i could not go with him to the funeral
then he mentions why i had him throwing out of the club where i go (i don't know if i mentioned that he was told not to come back at the club again, other people did not want him there)
his conversation was just the same as ever why do i hang around people who are his enemies (all the other musicians who finally saw what he is about)

so when i saw that he had not changed i hung up on him
and i have been missing him this last week and no i could not go back to this crazy life

and TheRide i was reading your message about p being at the mental hospital
my ex-p would do this in the winter time when he had no place to stay, when his mom's landlord would put him out of her appartment because he would be fighting with his mom's boyfriend, he would put himself into a rehab place for a few days or go to salvation army

and he is a guy who was making beaucoup money when he was younger and could still do it but refuse to go further with his carreer he was in demand to be in a movie did not show up to sign the paper and had been on tour in Europe and people wanted to see him again but acted so bad here in the states that his agent finally dropped him

p told me in those few moments of truth that his goal was to make one more cd and quit
but he let some women believe that he needs one month to get back on his feet and they pamper him to the point of loosing beaucoup of their money trying to help him and then they realize that he is just a trouble maker
he did this number to so many people that now it is not working anymore

another thing he tells me why he does not want to make money
there would be a lot of people who would sue him

and another thing he mentioned he is rich, his money is put away and if i marry him he will get the money out of the bank
so i would tell him now that you told me about your money
and i say yes to marry you
you will think that i married you for your money

O Lord God deliver us from the ps

freedom

Hello, I'm new but have been reading this forum from time to time. Very useful and reassuring insights.
My concern about the "P" in my life (or formerly) regards his job which relates to public safety. What sort of measures are being taken to screen for psychopaths from certain jobs such as bus drivers, airline pilots, hazardous material workers, and so forth? It would seem that there should be more preventitive efforts in certain fields.
The other part of my concern as it relates to me personally is more of an ethics issue. I've spent most of my energy trying to unglue myself from the entire P Web.
However, I am the only one (probably) who knows all the lies regarding this P's background (medical problems aside from the psych) which would probably cost him his job. However, his job does concern public safety and is overseen by a gov't agency.
I'm not crazy about getting blamed and more hassle; on the other hand, if something happens... Supplying an anonymous tip may not work. Employers and gov't bureaucracies are often clumsy and not so trustworthy, and I could end up suspect #1 source.
So that dilemma seems to make it harder to keep moving on...

Yours,

RJ

Hi freedom, I hope this has helped you put him in better perspective. Interesting how these creeps can live off everyone and then try to use this line:

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and another thing he mentioned he is rich, his money is put away and if i marry him he will get the money out of the bank

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Funny he probably never had the money to buy himself a drink and yet he tries this way to lure you back. Doesn't make any sense because if he had money in a bank with people trying to sue him they could probably figure that out and go after him.

I wish you luck with your strength to resist him.

Di