Hi hadenough, I am sorry for not welcoming you to the forum sooner, this monsoon season has been crazy and I have had to hop on and off line every few minutes;)

I am really sorry you are in this situation. Do you have any contact with your son?

Di

I'm scared of my daughter, and shes 14. I KNOW how to walk around on those eggshells, in fact I became real good at it.

yipee I found a way to post a message,

hi everyone

oky dokay ,now i can finally send my original post.

I will start with forwarding you a general history of my exes behaviours. My aim here people, is to receive support, and education, mainly in supporting me with my 14 year old daughter who has similar if not uncanny traits just like her dad. On reading her fathers history, I have always pondered whether or not her behaviours stem from a traumatic upbringing. Your input here would be greatly appreciated.

Fathers history

1. I met him while he was 26. He already had 2 children to a prior relationship. Later on I was to find he was run out of town and the country by not only his inlaws but his own family.

2. He found a pidgeon in the kitchen pooing all over the steralized baby bottles. He picked up the bird smashed it into every single wall cavity, pulled its head off, jumped on it, blood and guts everywhere, and guess who had to clean that mess up.

3. It was commonplace for him to find large insects, such as cockroaches, crickets, xmas bugs, and burn them alive using a cigarette lighter at the dinnertable, in front of the children.

4. Family cat thrown off the balcony, all its legs broken. I rememberd being grateful it wasnt me been thrown.

5. Road Rage. Dare to question his motives while driving, resulted in the care being driven into brick walls and breaking at the last minute. Baby in car and so was a friend who i have never seen since.

6. Alienates myself from family, and friends. His own friends had problems also. He would often remind me how great I had it compared to some of the dramas his friends would have. He would also set me up, something shocking, He would tell me so and so did this, and when I would confront them with the so called event, He would stick up for his buddies and make me out to be a right [censored]. He would then receive enormous amounts of sympathy from his friends for putting up with a cow like me. Then he would point out to me how lucky i was to have him, because nobody else likes me.

8. Family portrait taken at the school. While driving to the school the ex does his typical road rage thing. The actual portrait taken shows him sitting there cool and collect, while Im pictures as a mess with tears and in pain. The ex insists this photo go on the wall for all to see. He is totally oblivious that I AM NOT A HAPPY CAMPER IN THE PHOTO.

9. I am close to a nervous breakdown, Ex supports me. I am now allowed to do things I enjoy, such as the markets, the library and attend a spiritualist church with his friends wife. As he was a cathlic, he is concerned about the positive effect the church was having on me. He decides to attend to find out what that "bloody church" is about. The moment he walks in, the church is in absolute awe of his divine energy. I am put on the backburner, as there must be something wrong with me not to be happy with an angel like that. He is now invited to all the courses and meditations to find spiritual enlightment. I sit at home and hope to god it works.

10. Child not sitting straight at the dinner table. Child and chair picked up and thrown across the room.

11. Child throws toys out the second story window onto the broken perspex roof. Ex throws her out onto the roof. he blocks the window so I cant reach her. I Run downstairs and yell at her to stay on the wooden beams> and i stay underneath the roof in case she falls througH So I CAN CATCH HER.

I LEAVE PERMANENTLY!!!!!!

( much has been left out he was also verbally cruel to his children and physically brutal with myself. Of course all the bruises I received were out of sight, so know one could see. There was alcohol involved, fines, financial abuse and the list goes on).

4 YEARS OF STALKING COMMENCES

I MOVE TO A DIFFERENT SUBURB WHERE HE SHORTLY FOLLOWS> My only respite is that his friend advises him not to move into the empty house right next store to me. He moves 2 streets away instead.

In between his numerous phonecalls, unwanted visits, the charm and the manipulation continues. so does the violence. His stint at the church, he was able to learn all about the dark side, that is withcraft and black magic which he used against me and the children. He would tell me Ill stop hurting the kids if you come back to me. He would tell the kids he was going home to kill himself. Tell them I wont love you anymore until you get your mother on the phone now. Sleeps and makes friends with all my neighbours. Sleeps with all my so called friends. Gets a job at the local club where i socialize. Scares away any possible boyfriends. Turns the entire community against me through his malicious gossip. Earns the respect and admiration from the local police, as he is so good at talking down drunks at the club. Police listen to his stories, and every time try to enforce my protection order the police ignore me and treat me as neurotic.

Employs the local town gang to come around and sort me out with a couple of baseball bats. LUCKILY Im warned and I run. I move incognito interstate.


AT NO TIME DO I EVER EVER REMEMBER THE WORD SORRY EVER BEEN SAID, OR AT ANY TIME HAS HE EVER SHOWN ANY REMORSE FOR HIS ACTIONS. he also takes no responsiblity for anything, and his normal response is well that happened ok, now lets move on. (to the next drama of course)
Well thats it

Is he PYSHOPATHIC,
i WILL ALSO FORWARD MY DAUGHTERS HISTORY SHORTLY. The two other siblings have never shown any of these behaviours. I WILL ALSO FORWARD my history as I am also not beyond reproach.

Rosie

Jen, it seems like we're all talking about the same child/adult. Mine did not abuse animals that we knew of because that was a rule that she learned when she was a baby. NEVER HURT A PET. That was probably the only rule we were ever able to enforce and hopefully she still remembers that. But as far as having only the best, the most expensive clothes, shoes, everything, she sounds just like the others described her. She has an education, but no longer works and has never WANTED to work. She was in control and constantly complained and made fun of and threw her weight around her employees. They are scared of her because she told them that after she raised her children, she'd be back so they suck up to her when they see her. She's very intelligent, cunning, full of lies, loves to take people for a ride financially, bossy, etc. Just everything mentioned here. It's so easy to detach from her because we're tired of being treated like the scum of the earth. She thought nothing of belittling us in public and seemed so joyful about it when she got a good slam in there. A few people are so taken in by her that they believe we were nothing but drunken, abusive parents and she was a big enough person to even speak to us. Most people avoid her because they're in fear of her tongue. She's snotty and is so above all these stupid mortals walking the earth. Just reading these posts, nearly everything matches daughter.

Rosie, they love to isolate us from others and it seems like they don't want anyone to get along so as to compare stories about them. They tell everyone a different lie. Also, everyone is supposed to adore only THEM. When confronted with the truth of what they are, they stay away, but plan their extreme vengeance on you or someone you love. About the calm portrait~they have no conscience so they don't seem to get nervous or upset. When we've been unkind to someone and realize we were thoughtless, we feel bad and are a bit nervous. Not a P~ they couldn't care less.The easiest way to find out what he truly is would be to read a checklist that Dr. Hare has. If most things fit, he's probably a P.

Dear jamiee

Thankyou for your post. At this time all the information Im receiveing is overwhelming some. Time to take a break.
I just finished reading just a mans article of what motivates a P. I had a bit of a giggle, where it says that the P has no trouble on moving on too his next target. That happened to me as soon as I went into hiding. Almost the week after he targeted another poor gullible soul. She ended up in the same place where I had been, and ended up running over him physically with her car. Yup he lived. And after 4 years later he still targets her. This was ultimately my out, and I hope for you too he soon finds another target.

I am also a very strong woman, and I too beleive that because of that I was defianetly a conquest. Thank god you were able leave him early. And I know what its like to have your so called friends betray you. If my P wasnt sleeping with them, he was turning them against me, or simply scaring them. True friends in those days was a rare thing, and so hard because this is when you need them the most.

Take good care of yourself, and stay strong.

Rosie

Geeeeeeez Sorry Jamiee those comments were meant for pinamint, I really need to take that break.

rOSIE

I usually don't like calling anyone a lost cause, but for the P I'll make an exception. They are notoriously unhelpable, and the sooner we realize it, the more of our sanity can be saved. It really hurts to cut off family, but sometimes it is the best choice.

I really feel for you; it must be an awful thing to go through. I am fortunate in the fact that there are no Ps in my family that I know of. I have a hard time imagining being afraid of someone in the family, as you describe.