Hi

I keep hearing the same thing over and over from parents of Fledgling Psychopaths that the birth of a sibling seems to set them off on their path to psychopathy. So many of my contacts have said their FP has tried to hurt to the point of nearly killing a sibling. Even Hitler has been mentioned as hating the attention his new brother got from his mother.

Has anyone else heard of this and have their adult Ps got any history of hating a sibling. It would be interesting to know how many Ps are only children as I think that is what they would like to be. I have also noted that Ps like to be in a one to one situation rather than be part of a group.

Jan

Hi Jan,
Thought I'd answer to you now! Am having a day on this site and it's doing me the world of good. As to the sibling question with my son it is unclear. He is a half brother to my 2 daughters, he always says - that it would be so much better if they hadn't been born because he'd get everything then. However, he is ok with them - I mean he ignores them mostly, and only uses my gifts to them in time(never) in cash (always) in order to guilt trip me. He bonded quite well with the younger one, but hardly at all with the older one - although he looked out for her with the asthma thing. Not much there I'm afraid to support any tentative theory. What about your P only child? Or has sibling(s)?
Cheers Sarafina

You raise a very interesting point. At the age of 45 I have just come to the realisation that my brother is pychopathic. He is 18 months older than me and bullied me mercilessly as a kid. He was cruel, vindictive, manipulative and often violent. I was terrified of him and he loved it.. Our mother tells me that he used to hit and pinch me when I was in my pram as a baby. Like everyone alse on this forum I have done much research into the psychopathic personality and after a recent incident (the last in a lifetimes worth) I finally realised that he is not right in the head. The profile is an absolute dead ringer for a perfect fit. I have now broken off contact with him and I seriously hope that I never hear from him again, though I'm not optimistic. He just about damn near ruined my life. Other members of my family all have their own stories to tell about repeated abuse, being conned out of money and generally disgraceful treatment.

Chris,
My brother did those same things to me. You can read about my story under "Pscyopathic Bro" in family forum.
I just cannot get over how long he has been a "con-man". If there were one
phrase to describe him it would be that one.
He is a womanizer and i don't think he has EVER been faithful to a woman he's been with.
Extremely handsome, arrogant, cold hearted, is very charming when he needs to be. Cares nothing about you when he doesn't need anything. Drug addiction only makes the mental problems/personality problems worse.
I don't see my brother that much and I am glad

I always knew that my brother had a very dark side and many people had a deep hatred for him. We always knew that he was a user and a taker, as well as being a liar and an abuser, it's just that we never put the label 'psychopath' on it. He is however a brilliant salesman and he talked me into joining his business as a partner. We all believed the stories about what a gold-plated business it was and as I was unemployed at the time I was grateful for the opportunity. After a few months it became apparent that things were not as I was led to believe and I became very concerned about the financial risks. Within a year the business folded and has cost me so much money that i lost my house and was £40,000 in debt. My brother had an escape route prepared and didn't pay a single creditor a single penny. He didn't even turn up in court when I, on behalf of the business, was being sued. He just moved on and got himself another job. He has never expressed a single word of regret and just said that I should "take my chances and get out of it as best I can". He still tells everyone how I "ruined his business". It was only after that and much research that I was able to label him psychopathic. I have shared my findings with the rest of the family and none of us have a shred of doubt. He is now seen in his true colours and the 'sheeps clothing' has been ripped off at last.

Hi Chris,

Welcome to the forum.

After what you've been through (and perhaps still are), this will probably not sound like much, but it's actually very positive that the rest of your family believe you and see your brother for what he is.

Often in these situations, the P in the family has the other relatives completely duped and that can really exacerbate the suffering for the person the P victimizes, leaving them feeling like perhaps they really are the one at fault. At the very least, it's better that your suspicions about him have been recognized and validated by your family. Ps are usually the ultimate "teflon" people.

Whatever you do, look after your psychological health as best you can. It's the main thing one needs to get through these situations. That and support.

Sylvie

Hi Sylvie,

Thanks for that. Yes, you're right. It wasn't until a couple of years ago that many, many years of backstabbing within the family came to light. My P brother prayed upon my mother's depression, brought about by her break up with my father, and very cleverly and seruptitiously convinced her that my wife and I were in league with my father against her. I just could not work out why for years we were getting grief off her when we had done nothing wrong, but now of course we all know. Thanks to my research we can all see the man behind the mask and we are now swapping stories that explain things going back years and years. If all his creative brilliance could be put to good use instead of a psychopathic one he'd be a millionaire. As they say, don't get me started.

Hello Again,

Hope it is OK to ask a question here,i am not sure how to deal with Psychopath asking can he take our daughter over east to his parent's i really and truly do not want this as his mother has a sick mind like his.He has been so unreasonable lately as far as our daughter is concerned,as i have said before he is having a relationship with my ex friend across the road,now he wants our daughter to be part of his game,it was Anzac service last week,it was just a nightmare i had to take my daughter along to schoolto sing in the choir,he sat in the row behind me with my ex neighbour or so called ex friend,my daughter was so sad she was put in a position where she was so uncomfortable,he wanted to play happy families,with his number 5 lady friend and there 2 kids as he has always been a good dad to my daughter always told her about honesty etc,etc,she has had to come to terms with his lies,deceit,unusual behaviour,loke he tries to hide his car when he is across the road at the neighbours i am at a loss as to what to say to my daughter about all his going on's also can anyone give me advive on he never tells me when he wants to see his daughter,then he just make's arrangements with my daughter sometimes she forget's the dates times etc,then he blames me of not letting him see her,i am so tired and exausted of his mind games,my daughter has gone from a well ajusted very independent well liked kid to confused,sad,and goodness knows what else.Any help tp stop ths madness would be a great help and beneit to my daughter and myself.

Patience God i have none left.

Hi patience, questions are always okay; )

Do you have any kind of custody agreement with your x? I can't recall if you mentioned, does he pay child support?

Personally even though I am not in your shoes I wouldn't do anything unless forced by a court order and then I would go to work to get him away from having any access. If you could force an evualation by a qualified expert that might be your ticket to keep your child out of his clutches (proving he is an unfit parent). It must be terribly sad to watch your own child have to experience all of this.

Your situation sounds terrible, it must be truly sickening to watch your so called friend and have to be so close to this mess. It goes to show what convincing liars Psychopaths are, she is probably full of lies about you.

Is there any way to sell your house and put some distance? Psychopaths don't typically go out of their way to support their children and more commonly only show up or make any attempt for the "look" of being a so called good parent.

Di