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#6335 - 12/03/07 09:08 AM Do Psychopaths feel FEAR?
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What information about FEAR is there in regards to a Psychopath.

Do they feel fear or not.

What do they do with fear if they do? How do they react or filter it?

I would like to know if they have the capacity to fear others or, is that the equivalent "reverse" of our(nonP's) Love?

Do they thrive on their feelings of fear if they feel it?

I was once told that the degree a person "hates" is the degree of "love that hurt"....just curious....

The only time I saw the Psychopath even remotely showing anything fearful is when my dogs have eyeballed him...I was amazed at the stone cold look - he froze. I had never before seen that look other than confronted with dogs, who by the way all dogs knew what he was, I have to wonder if that is why he abused the dogs cause they could see his soul and the darkness or lack of light in him, and they were warning him......they know somehow friend or foe....

Any info of Psychopath's and FEAR would be welcomed...thanks all

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#6337 - 12/03/07 06:25 PM Re: Do Psychopaths feel FEAR? [Re: James]
Dianne E. Offline

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I would venture to guess they only fear getting caught, interesting question will do some research.

But am not sure it is fear like we experience.

Welcome to the forum,

Di

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#6339 - 12/04/07 07:11 PM Re: Do Psychopaths feel FEAR? [Re: 15percent]
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Hello 15percent

I found the concept of fear for a psychopath very confusing until I was told to not think of fear as we would know it but as a lack of anxiety. They are not anxious about being caught out lying, stealing or cheating.

There are some very interesting pieces of research as to how the brain reacts in situations we would find stressful and a Psychopath does not have the same reactions.

I’d love to go into a bit more detail about this so will come back to you tomorrow. I’ve just come back from a long boring business meeting and it’s after 11pm so I’m not at my best.

If there are any more questions you have please let us know and we will do all we can to help you.

Regards
Jan

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#6343 - 12/11/07 07:22 PM Re: Do Psychopaths feel FEAR? [Re: ]
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Hallo all....I'm new here and from the Netherlands so please accept that my english can be bad....

I'm sitting here...reading your words and tears are in my eyes..Not because I'm shocked by what you say...But because I finally found a place of recognition.

Fear..and do ps feel it...This topic is on my mind for the last months ...again...
For 20 years I carrfully watched my son.When he was a young boy I saw what I called sometimes, but rarely, fear.

As he grew older I never saw it again.

I think, and that's a guess, that he will be feeling something we would call fear when he loses controle...For instance when he is in a fight with somebody bigger and stronger...( he is quite small for a grown man)
I saw hem anciuos for me...his mother.I have heartfailure so a weak body, with a very strong mind. That's the reason I, m alive still
Somehow I manage to stay on top of te situation and somehow have him covinged(???) that I am never afraid of him... After he's goes again I cry , tremble, feel sick and some times have to stay in my bed for days..... But never ever I will show him my real feelings. The moment he knows this he will kill me....
So...will I call this fear for me??..(I never touch him)


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#6345 - 12/11/07 09:43 PM Re: Do Psychopaths feel FEAR? [Re: ]
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This is nice......I answered most of your questions already I think in the other topic........But no tall..And yes I wil be happy to share more.. I'm thankfull I can !!!!

You ask about other family and his father....
and also about his birth....

I was pragnand for almost 10 months with him... I got in labor on the 10th of September and he is born on the 6th of October..that's 26 days............
His father was also agressive but I don't know if he's a ps also..I divorced him when my son was almost 4 years old and father didn't want to see his son anymore....I think ,expect this to make my son's behavoir worse.
I escape my family when I was 16 years old because I was a victim of sexual abuse and neclect from baby on up. I never saw them again........ if there are ps. among them?..It wouldn'r suprise me at all!!

As you say so clearly...'We are expected to love our children...' And somewhere deep down, but I have to search deeeeppp..I still love the child I gave birth to
Do I love the person he's has become?..no way...
But I discovered also when he was much younger that the love isn't enough.... There has to be so much more to raise a child..... And at a moment, somewhere in time, your done.....
There's no pacience anymore..no loyalty..no thrust, no nothing... And I think that's the moment you have to let go ,for your own sake, and for the other children you may have, because this wil bring you to become serieusly depressed and maybe even suicidal.
I would do anyhting in my power if there would be something I can do..I said to one of my doctors;..if I have to die to make him well...I would..But even that wouldn't do anything for him, so I have to start looking after myself and do something to save me....

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#7431 - 10/06/08 01:42 PM Re: Do Psychopaths feel FEAR? [Re: 15percent]
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Hi,
I can relate that the Psychopath would attack if he smells fear.

Psychopath-1
At least with one Psychopath I know that was actually in the sense of "killing" that she mentioned. That same person though, in responding to 15percent here, was also afraid of dogs. It was weird. I hadnīt read any of Dr. Hareīs books yet at that time but I could SENSE this man was trouble. Right from the very start I had alarm bells ring in the highest tones. I guess when we trust our instincts we are capable of letting our SUBCONSCIOUS work for us and notice patterns and receive those alarms that would then stimulate us to think through it CONSCIOUSLY. This guy was good looking, trying to charm me out of my disinterested corner. I could have been flattered but the flattering came when it did so not fit (no makeup, pimpels, towel on my head) it was all too obvious, so I was reserved. Later on he came back though and we went out a couple of times. But I didnīt forget the number of strange incidents and remarks. It became all too weird for me when he told me of right wing folks who like to beat up others (with a gloomy shine in his eyes), then I ran into a guy who had a cold stare just like him at his apartment and immediately had the impression that they might be drug dealers or porn makers. Then one weekend he would invite me to a "cool club" in one of those run down houses. He wouldnīt give a clear address, said I wouldnīt find it as the house had been shut down officially. Instead he asked me to meet him at a fuel station. I figured that that sounded like one big trap. NOPE! But I also realized I should not show him a single second that I might be afraid and for that reason would quit seeing him. Luckily at that time a friend of mine moved and I inherited her super cool and super huge dog. I declared to Psychopath-1 I would get one and Psychopath-1 was shocked! He tried everything to talk me (presumably unnoticed) out of it. But of course I kept the dog and chased out the guy. My impression was that it wasnīt fear of the dog himself but of the fact that those animals have instincts that could blow his cover. And I could sense that in him as well. It was very difficult though to explain that to my environment. I guess people are afraid of being called a loony when they describe s.th. like that. Funnily they rather treat such a remark like a disease and choose to not have heard it. They seem to be irritated by the fact that people like us here on the forum observe s.th. that could be deeply startling - and so they choose to rather believe that in fact it only happens on TV...

Psychopath-2
This guy I donīt know in person. I just heard of him through a close friend. She reported that he had actually killed her friend. Everybody around her was shattered. The problem: nobody had paid enough attention to him previously killing the dog of that victim a while earlier when the woman could still have been saved. From the descriptions it seemed as if he had assumed this dog could uncover him.

Best,
Pat


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#7499 - 10/29/08 05:43 PM Re: Do Psychopaths feel FEAR? [Re: Pat]
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Hi everyone!

I have also been looking for information on psychopathy and fear. I used to believe that they can't feel any type of fear but then I had some weird experiences with my psychopath where he seemed to be afraid of dying, planes and going to jail. That's about it though, as James said in an earlier post, perhaps there are some types of fear that they can feel because they aren't related to empathy or loving others. For example, I've never seen my psychopath worry about his relatives health, he actually wishes all them dead. But he does care a lot about his own personal health :$

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#7601 - 11/18/08 06:28 AM Re: Do Psychopaths feel FEAR? [Re: Lena906]
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What an interesting topic!

The Psychopath who was in my life used to show high anxiety by flushing bright red about the face and neck, and his fingers, hands and feet would almost hammer whatever they were touching to near destruction. As for what would cause the anxiety, that could be something like putting on a great public face while wanting to behave in an abusive way - almost like it being so hard to contain himself that the real him is bursting out of his skin and feet. Incidentally - taking a look under the table at the manic movement of a Psychopath's feet is quite an eye opener! How can they move their feet so fast yet keep their upper half so 'normal' looking!

I would say the Psychopath who was in my life was most fearful of losing money. Money is all he cares for and he plays some very dirty (and illegal)tricks to retain it, and gain more.

Another thing, now I think on it, is he would exude a great and awful stench when caught off-guard by some minor 'disaster' or another. Even something trivial that he wasn't expecting would make him smell terrible - a mixture of instantly old sweat and stale faeces.

Oh how fresh the air is in our Psychopath free household!

Haze. (not named after the air-freshener, honest ;o)


Edited by Haze (11/18/08 06:29 AM)

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#10204 - 10/24/10 07:27 PM Re: Do Psychopaths feel FEAR? [Re: Haze]
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Hi Tina, I will combine the threads I find on fear so it is easier to read what others have said in the past.

Di

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#10214 - 10/25/10 10:24 AM Re: Do Psychopaths feel FEAR? [Re: Dianne E.]
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My Psychopath has dreams of satin. He knows exactly what he looks like. He'll squeel in his sleep sometimes. He says later that satin is laughing at him. Be has had a relationship with him since he was small. He said he tried praying to god and got no answer. He tried praying to satin and got everything he asked for. I've been so wrapped up in all of his bull. I can't seem to get past how he can do the things he has to me. I need to deal with in and move on but I don't know how. I just can't believe it's possible. I need to do no contact and I'm starting today again. I could use all the help i can get in finding a way to deal with the lies and the utter betrayl. Thanks confused confused
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