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#7900 - 03/18/09 04:37 AM Re: Have a baby with a psychopath [Re: Jennifer]
Jan
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Hello Jennifer

As for psychopaths lying.....mostly if their lips are moving they are telling lies. They lie compulsively usually for their own gain or if trying to impress will tell others what they want to hear just as Shelley has said. They usually weave a lie round a strand of truth so it's very hard to distinguish where the truth ends and the lie begins.
I believe psychopaths DO know the truth but if it doesn't suit them they 'change' it. The reason I think they don't believe their own lies is because they can give a different version of the lie to various people so their stories are never consistent.

They often forget what they have others so if they truly believed their own lies the story would always be the same.

Psychopaths can be above average intelligence but I don't know the statistics, the clever ones usually don't get caught and incarcerated when there would be a chance of getting a diagnosis and becoming a statistic. The cleverer ones usually carry out more sophisticated crimes such as fraud. The dumber ones don't think of the consequences of their actions as they are looking for instant gratification so are more likely to come the attention of the judicial system.

I think they anger quickly because of the same reason, they want instant results and have a low boredom threshold and look for excitement. It's a bit of a bully tactic to get angry with someone to get their own way. It must be frustrating when their manipulation doesn't get them what they want and as they have no empathy they don't care who they hurt with their anger.

There have been a few studies recently about MRI scans of the brain showing some features common to psychopaths. I think you will find the Kent Kiehl study very interesting and I think it is in our resource section.
And lastly...there is no medication although some drugs may alleviate some of the 'symptoms' as they would with anyone else. As psychopathy is a personality disorder not an illness or psychosis it's seems to be very much a matter of choice how you 'use' your personality.

I'm sorry to hear that you are suffering so much and I hope we will continue to support you through this and look forward to the day the little ones are back home with you. It's natural to be worried about them losing the bond with you but that doesn't have to happen, you are seeing them regularly so there is no reason it should.

Regards
Jan

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#7904 - 03/23/09 06:32 AM Re: Have a baby with a psychopath [Re: ]
Jennifer Offline
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Registered: 03/15/09
Posts: 9
Hello Everyone!
Just wanted to write a quick note to let everyone know I am OK. I am worried about Shelley. She hasn't posted since 03/16/09. I hope everything is all right.
I have been so busy, lots to tell but not enough time right now. Sometime this week I will sit down and write a long narrative. Thank you again for all your support and guidance. You are helping me through the worst period of my life. Things are starting to slowly get better. Day by day....
As my attorney says, keep the faith!
Yours,
Jennifer

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#7905 - 03/23/09 03:57 PM Re: Have a baby with a psychopath [Re: Jennifer]
Jan
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Hello Jennifer

It's good to hear from you and thanks for letting us know you are OK. We do think about all our members even when they don't post, often many years later names crop up and we wonder how people are doing.

I hope we will continue to give you support to get through these bad times.

We will wait to hear more from you and wish you and the children well. I'm looking forward to the day you tell us they are back home with you.

Regards
Jan

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#7906 - 03/25/09 03:13 AM Re: Have a baby with a psychopath [Re: ]
Christine Offline
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Registered: 03/25/09
Posts: 7
Dear Shelley

I'm so sorry that you had to be involved with this horrible man. Your concerns about his future relationship with your child are fully understandable and its sickening that a man like this should have rights because he is the biological father.
Shelley, in my experience, you've really got to fight "tooth and nail" against these guys. Don't just presume that the court authorities will see that he's so very bad and rule accordingly. Even when presented with the facts they can be blinded by his misrepresentation of the situation. Along with all the paperwork you hopefully have collected, you need to really slam the man verbally to them. Make it crystal clear that you strongly object to any ruling other than supervised visitation.

Its tough, and these guys can be intimidating. I lost custody of my son to his Psychopath father because I didn't fight hard enough. When I went for custody in a second court battle, the judge (different one), was shocked that I wasn't awarded custody in the first place. He said that he hopes that I've learnt to stand up for myself now. Talk about a slap in the face.

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#7907 - 03/25/09 03:29 AM Re: Have a baby with a psychopath [Re: Jennifer]
Christine Offline
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Registered: 03/25/09
Posts: 7
Dear Jennifer

Big big hugs for you. I was also married to a psychopath, but nothing nearly as shocking as the one you've had to live with. Your strength, courage and positivity is amazing, you really are an incredible woman.
Please don't worry that you will lose the bond with your babies, you wont, believe me. They are blessed to have a mother like you, and thank God that monster psychopath wont see the light of day again. I'm thinking of you in these difficult times and more even bigger hugs for you.

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