I would not guess it is easy or possible to beat a Psychopath it is possible without a great trauma toward your own spirit. No reason that I can think of to remain as a target, the sooner you get off their radar the better.

I don't know if I posted this but it is one of my philosophys, a Psychopath can keep their balance better than most of us when we scream back, I know that is how it is for me. If I remain cool and calm and don't take the bait I can think more clearly.

Kiki, does he has assets that you can get ahold of when you get the judgement? Looking forward to hearing more of your story.

Di

He makes $42.00 per hour & is in a union of about 700 members. I know a few so they can put the word out & likely figure out where he is working, if need be. Was planning on filing the suit today but am sort of burned out & want to do the finishing touches when I am more on my toes. Sometimes when you look at something awhile it is good to set it aside & have sort of a fresh perspective. Then you read it seriously & are more likely to notice errors or if you left something out. It was difficult to write because I would get so angry. I do hope I get service on him because that's the main hurdle. I believe that I will. So today I hope to go out a bit for St. Patrick's day & have a couple beers. I am sort of struggling with how detailed I need to get relative to justifying $7200.00 in compensatory damages! This has to be the wildest complaint I have ever written in 24 years but it is all true! I truly think this is fascinating reading for a breach of contract & fraud complaint. I have never read anything nailing a psychopath better, if I do say so myself. Although I never did any sort of sample or survey of complaints against psychopaths. In my mind it is a masterpiece of sorts. Perhaps there is something to that saying about revenge is a dish best served cold. I have to admit I just got quite the laugh about what I wrote here & I hope somebody else did too. Likely more tomorrow.

Great Job, Kiki,

I am the same, I put things in my draft box and go over them a few times with a fresh set of mind. Particularly if I am angry;)

I would get very detailed but to the point.

Have a break and take another look, do you know what judge it would go in front of?

Finding info where people are is almost childs play these days. If he finds out he might cut and run. It is great he makes that per hour, gee what a shame when you get an order to garnish his wages.

Di

Well, i have wondered if i was just pleasing the psychopath who has abused me when i speak to him about the bad affects of his behavior. Sometimes, i think the only thing that got him to apologize was him getting tired of me begging him to apoloize.

Clementine-

You made a good point.

Psychopaths never take responsibility for their behavior. If you got yours to listen and not respond with some projection and misplaced blame I commend you.

Psychopaths don't have the ability to feel sorry for anything they do. You were probably barraging him enough where he new if he apologized he would get you to leave him alone/(shut up--which is probably what he wants to say) about it. I have bothered my ex too to the point where he too just said what I needed to hear.

You can get them to verbalize an apology, but an apology from a psychopath means nothing.

Lyzak

Di, Naive, Elizabeth, Kiki, Clementine and Lyzak,

Your post have been so helpful to me. I have been reading all the posts on this forum for around a month and a half. All of you give me so much hope that it is possible to beat a psychopath. You all have given me so much hope.

I've got one heck of a story to tell. I'm so angry I'm not ready to go into full blown detail about it yet. I hope you understand. I will say that I am one of those woman who didn't know she married a lying, cheating psychopath until I was served with divorce papers two months ago. My husband (a high profile attorney) has fathered two children in Vietnam with some woman who is 26 years younger than him. I'm still so angry I can't talk about it. All the signs were there but I was so wrapped up in helping my eldest daughter with her wedding, making my house perfect, teaching the 4th grade, doing charity events, doing everything, playing Ms. My Life is Wonderful. My life isn't so perfect and it hasn't been for the longest time. He meets almost all of Dr. Hares Checklist.

Great Advice. Don't stop telling me how to beat him at his own game. Thankful I found you all.

Roslyn

You're welcome.

Hi Clementine, keep a few things in mind, what will be the outcome for you, it could take years off your life and him in your energy cycle for a long time. As normal people we really can't predict what evill will do to get even.

I would tread lightly and carefully. We just don't think like they do, thank goodness.

Di

I have the worst time finding my way way back to this page when I sign out such that I finally bookmarked the page & just sign back in!

I did complete my complaint & summons but did not get to file it & send it out for service today.

However, Monday it will be done. My birthday is Easter Sunday so I hope he is served by then. It would be a cool birthday present of sorts. I know that seems really speedy but he is working at a huge place that takes up almost 280 acres so I figure that a sheriff goes there almost everyday. What's great about getting them at work, especially at a secure facility such as where he is at is that the sheriff goes to security, finds out exactly where he is working, and goes directly to him in the plant (where they all wear identification cards). None of the not answering the door at their residence baloney.

I plan on garnishing his wages and bank account and taking his vehicle (which I believe I essentially paid for). You have to wait 30 days after a judgment for it to be final. Then you can do a court appearance which is called a citation to discover assets to find out what assets he has. But that gives him time to empty the bank account. I already know where he works & hopefully he will remain there for some time, so I can send the wage garnishment out after the 30 days transpires. I know where he used to bank & believe that he likely still banks there. By moving, the only address I can provide to the sheriff is no good, so he will not receive the notifications from the sheriff as these events get underway. If he had filed a forwarding order with the post office he would, but I am sure that he did not. So he outsmarted himself. I don't really know how taking the vehicle works, but the sheriff has it sold & the proceeds are applied to the judgment. I hope it is worth enough for them to do it. He owns it free & clear. He has another older vehicle (that is supposed to be for his deadbeat son who has never even had a job) so he can drive that. I could take both as they are both in his name, but he does have to get to work so he can have his wages garnished. You get 15% of the gross wages so that's $252.00 per week. After the sheriff deducts all the charges for the sale of the vehicle, not much actual value will remain, but I don't care. I do hope that he truly loves the vehicle & that it runs like a top. Let's see how he likes it when somebody takes from him! I do hope it proves to be most inconvenient for him. I hope that I will be dreaming about his checks bouncing all over town, unbeknownst to him.

I hope I am not boring everyone to death with these legal details, but I want to make this painful for him. I want to see him experience grief & I know that hitting him in the old pocket book is certain to get his goat.

Also, I have to take the car because who knows if he will get laid off & go back on unemployment again?

I made sure that I knew where he worked before I sent the demand letter because I suspected that he might move. I figured that they would never answer the door at the apartment anyway. Even I did not expect that he would move in just a week.

This psychopath is certainly predictable.

I am still having nightmares, anxiety, and early morning wake up, but hope it goes away soon.

More next week, but I may pop in to see what's up over the weekend.

And I think I know which Judge I will get. I had a bad experience with him in the past, but he probably won't remember me. I did nothing wrong, but I was aggravated that he dismissed that case. I am a part time practitioner & don't go to court very often. Most of the time when I am there, I am at the law library. Actually, most attorneys never go to court.

Rosyln & Others:

I am glad that you have found some serenity in these posts. I tend to pop in when I find myself getting aggravated about the psychopath. The more I read the more I realize that he is a textbook psychopath. I don't know that this psychopath can ever be beat per se, because the damage done in my life can never fully be reversed. However, I do intend on giving him a run for his money that will even be hard for a psychopath to forget. I even put in the court complaint that I pray that this not happen to anybody else. Further, I intend to stay with this forum for a very long time in the hope that I can help others.