Did that - it's written black on white paper - Still the Psychopath. denies it and says that the doctor that wrote those papers is a psychopath and not him. We're lucky that he's following his treatment (seemingly he's going though a deep depression with psychotic elements too, and needs treatment for that).

Meanwhile I am looking for ways to heal, to be honest I feel worse after the real light bulb moment, finding myself stuck under the same roof with the same "old crap" and no money for therapy. A lot of the behaviors in him have changed for the good, but still you know those flashes, disgust, anger and rushing thoughts are not leaving me, I'm working on it though.

@Dianne - you are right - seems that way.

I'd have all Psychopath's in courts. I mean it's unbelievable how much pain they can cause to others - emotionally, financially and something even making a human into a non-human possibly for life, what the **** they should all be in courts (especially the ones with severe backgrounds) It's unbelievable how non-guilty psychopaths can believe they are and even act so (no conscience but still they can tell good from bad, at least throw some [censored] "sorry", "excuse me", "forgive me" words once in a [censored] while ... it's unbelievable. Excuse me didn't take my xanax

Hope everyone is doing bit better.

Yeah, I've heard my Psychopath has said we're "even" after I almost lost everything my life included and he got away basically unscratched. He probably means that after what happened some people like him a bit less and that must be really annoying. But no guilty feelings of course. I almost had to laugh when I've heard about it.

In reality, psychopathy is just an illness, I would hold them responsible for their actions though if they are too severe. These people go with their instinct exactly like animals do - eat, play, con, cheat, hunt you name it. It's all because of their lack of conscience - nothing amazes me from what you've said. Your psychopath is probably even saying "Damn, I should have destroyed you more, but damn my mask fell off" ....

Cheers

Mine told me he had bipolar disorder and that his psychiatrist said that he was incapable of "love". I was alright with that, because I was not invested nor had I planned to. It was not until after he rapped & beat me and then tried to get me fired by accusing me of harassment did I realize he was a psychopath. Before that I just thought he was an epic A-hole.

That's the problem - if you've never met a guy like that you may know his an ass but you're not imagining that there is absolutely nothing there, never was, never will. Hence you tend to excuse him, try to find rationale for it and so on assuming he's like a normal human. Only when you know what you're dealing with you can really deal with it. And Psychopaths are using this to their advantage - will make excuses like "I had a [censored] up family" to make it more believable.

I'm not sure it's an illness. It's surely an abnormal version of a human personality but I don't know if you can call it an illness...

Once you have a genetic disorder, a brain injury, or just looking at a psychopath (secondary psychopathy), that means the psychopath has not inherited the disorder but rather developed it due to his/her enviroment, you're still looking at an illness.

Even though it's labeled in the DSM as a personality disorder, and/or mental disorder it's a genetic illness for the most part. Lacking conscience is far worse than lacking a kidney or a leg, but it's still an illness, the psychopath lacks the utterly most important part of what makes a human being.

Without a conscience you're basically an instinctual driven animal. Aren't they?

I don't know, that's too a philosophical question for me, to define what makes a human being and what not.
In general they way you should treat and think of about Psychopaths is not an easy one from an ethical and philosophical point of view. I mean you can say it's a normal though extreme variation of a human personality or you can say it's an illness and anything in between and any of that labels has serious implications on how you treat these people in general. That applies anyway to most mental disorders and has a lot to do with free will and stuff. I don't think I can really make any hard statements about that...

Hi all, some of these threads can get pretty full and I try to not over moderate but we need to stick to the topic and I really encourage you to have other conversations on different threads. I think where you are going with a deeper meaning regarding Psychopathy is very interesting.

Thanks for your understanding.

Di

I have lived with him since 1970. For years and years I suffered from his actions, reactions and cruelty. About one year and a half ago, I finally called an ambulance when he was attempting to kill himself through drinking and prescription drugs. He hit one of the police who arrived before the ambulance and he was arrested. A whole other story. I am crying right now thinking about this incidence. He was admitted to the hospital and was diagnosed as being psychotic. I am sick myself since January 2011. I have severe tinnitus. This incident not help my stress levels which are key in keeping down in order to keep spiking as least as possible. I live in hell from the way I am treated by him and with my tinnitus at the same time.