....and he will continue to have her as the most important person in his life. Second fiddle and conflict with a potential Psychopath kid makes for a horrible way to have a "normal" relationship.

Once you have your mind made up, please stay clear in what you communication to him. Nothing is going to change with him and his daughter.

Kids sometimes do goofy things that as adults we wouldn't even consider, it sounds like she is one that will continue ignoring any rules or obligations. Trust me I was a goofy kid but I didn't turn into a criminal or drug dealer.

Di

Yeah, all kids hit rough patches. With her, it's been nonstop for 10 years. The thing is, the crimes just get more serious every time. What's going to be next? I told my bf years ago that she'll be on the stand for committing murder, and he'll be there telling the judge, "She said she didn't do it! So, she didn't do it!!!" Well...my son and I aren't going to be placed in harms way.

She never learns from any of this stuff she does, her remorse is fake, if there's any at all. She's good at turning on the tears and acting dramatic, then, shortly after it's like she's the happiest person in the world.

Also, my bf will most likely be stuck raising any children she produces. She'll also be using her own children to manipulate him. "Daddy...I need money...don't you care about your GRANDCHILDREN!!!" I was shocked a little over a year ago when she told her father, "You better be nice to me, I'm the mother of your future grandchildren!" What a weird thing to say. It's like she had already figured out that she could manipulate him using his grandchildren.

Sounds like a horrible thing for your bf to look forward to but from what you have said he will take care of whatever she drops in his lap from babies to drug deals.

You are smart to get out of their target range as soon as possible. Life is too short and he doesn't sound like a great "catch";)

Di