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#14484 - 03/21/13 12:40 AM Re: Cant take it any more [Re: NoOne]
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NoOne,

This sounds more serious than you let on. I hope you have been documenting these threats. I'm wondering why you haven't gone to family court to present this information and get a RO.

I can only speak of my experiences, but I know for a fact that my "Psychopath" has minnions who tracked me as far as 12 hours from our home. I do not think that you are being paranoid. I'm going to give you some advice and do with it what you may;

1) Compile he documents/evidence that you may have against your "Psychopath".

2) Contact a DV counselor in your area.

3) Provide the counselor and your attorney with your documentation.

4) I do think that the stranger could have been casing your house. Maybe it's time to take in a room mate, install solar lighting, motion detector lights, chimes that go off when a car enters the driveway...install video cameras. Check them during the night to see that they work.

5) I'm not sure about this part, but if you have someone who talks to your "Psychopath", let her know that you have provided the appropriate authorities with materials in the event of a serious injury or death (sorry). I would be vague about the contents- enough to know that she's been put on notice.



I know this may sound a little uncomfortable if you are used to being independent, but these are dangerous times, especially if your "Psychopath" is convertly violent like mine.

Be Safe.

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#14494 - 03/21/13 10:04 AM Re: Cant take it any more [Re: 1962]
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Wow NoOne, I'm really sorry about what you're experiencing. The only thing I have to add is listen to your gut and for sure take every precaution to protect yourself and those around you. I also don't think you're being paranoid.

I'd record these instances with my iPhone too. That was some advice my local women's shelter gave me when I initially left my ex and I said I was worried he'd contact me again. Of course the laws are considerably different here in Canada so I can't speak on anything else, but if you have a smart phone- use it.

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#14534 - 03/23/13 08:21 PM Re: Cant take it any more [Re: 1962]
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I dont know.I truly want to think that I am only paranopia, but ...her astrological birth chart is getting a major aspect from a dangerous transit, so I do worry. Not as much about the planets as about her irrational and violent nature. From what I have been reading psychopaths can do weird things when driven by hatred. I have taken precautions but I worry about her threat: 'to hire a hit man.' She would have to be very stupid to do so and the hit man not know what he is truly getting into. Unless, of course, he is a very sophisticated one. In that case it is hopeless.

But, again, I heard such threats almost daily for so many years why would I take them serisously now? The only thing that has changed so far is my state of mind due to the fact that I have been reading about high profile media cases.

Anyway, I just went through my cabinet of old files looking for 'evidence' and found out that before she left she emptied out a lot of material. Old tax forms, retirement accounts statements, 'love' letters, etc were all gone. The folders are there but they are empty. Gone. Also gone is the mail order bride ('Sears') cataloge. The only thing I found was the 'family' picture she broke up at her first hammer rampage.

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#14536 - 03/23/13 08:32 PM Re: Cant take it any more [Re: Shayna]
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Yes, I do have a phone with a video camera with me at all times. I could also install a video at home. I will look into it. This is such a small community that it is be nearly impossible for a stranger to show up and do his thing without being detected. Maybe I am only being paranoia. Her hatred/violence and money neverthless continues to worry me. Has she gotten over it and moved on to a new life/victim? I dont know. I will take more precautions anyway. Thanks for the advice.

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#14539 - 03/24/13 12:23 AM Re: Cant take it any more [Re: NoOne]
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NoOne,

What's the harm in taking every precaution that you can? There are many inexpensive things you can do to start with.

I have also been told that if the "Psychopath" I was married to wanted me dead, he would work on this for a long time- apparently it becomes an obcession with them. They hold a grudge for a long time.

It seems like you have a long history with this person so I would begin with getting whatever documentation you can get together- along with a statement to the police about her threat and put it in the hands of several resources to be mailed in the event of a serious accident or death. this is something that I have done- it is a little bit of security, but the only avenue I can think of right now.

I reread your earlier posts and I was wondering how your girls are? You do realize that this pathology is genetic. You had battered yourself up quite a bit about not getting them out of the situation. It is possible that no matter what you tried to do to get them out, they could still have significant issues. I have had to face that possibility with my two children- I am careful to give them vague or minor details as I am unsure of their alliances.

I wouldn't worried about seeming paranoid, I would take whatever precautions I could. have you considered moving?




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#14609 - 03/27/13 10:30 PM Re: Cant take it any more [Re: 1962]
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Moving is out of question but I will take more precautions because I fear that she has not moved on to a new relationship and it consumes her that I am with another woman. She already tried but it didnt go anywhere. She wrote my employer infamous letters but I was cleared up by an inquiry of their own lawyers. She wrote a denouncing letter to the IRS and I was audited. I had to hire an expensive lawyer to advocate my case and I was cleared up. I lost the boat. Minor stuff, however. She got hold of my contacts notebook and sent them infamous text messages. The accusations however were so outrageous that no one took them seriously. It was embarassing, however. She forbade and bribed the daughters not to communicate with me but they find ways to do it. One is doing apparently well at least in school but the other is in real troubles. She is in a permanent conflict with the mother and acting in many ways just like her. She wrote me recently to want to come to visit (I sense that she wants to get away) but since she is a minor I doubt she will be able to do it because it entails to get out of the country. But I know she is trying. She failed her first attempt. I have been looking all over by evidence and found out that she cleaned up a lot of stuff. She loved to make threats (and I mean death threats) over the phone. I was use to that kind of language so I didnt take it seriously. But I need to get a phone that will allow me to tape calls. I dont know if there is such a thing. I would love to tape her threats.

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#14611 - 03/27/13 11:23 PM Re: Cant take it any more [Re: NoOne]
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Hi NoOne, there are indeed recording devices that click in when you answer the phone. Depending on where you live these are the types of devices you would be looking for: recording devices

Also there are some great cameras these days that you can monitor from your computer when away from the home they are actually smoke detectors which is great because that way no one in your household would know they are there. Meaning if you have people working in your home, no reason for them to know as who knows who may be speaking to others.

Here again, it depends on locations that are in your area but if you do a Google search for [i]smoke detector camera/i] you will find an extensive variety.

Hope that helps, good security is a good thing for most people particularly in these cases.

Di

Also you might want to check recording laws where you are located. If it is legal then the evidence is admissable.



Edited by Dianne E. (03/27/13 11:24 PM)
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#14749 - 04/09/13 08:01 PM Re: Cant take it any more [Re: NoOne]
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Text messages

The other day we came across a text message sent to my family, co-workers and friends phone. Not just a simple cell phone text message. When she first found out that I had a girl friend or significant other she just got out of orbit. We were already divorced and she knew about it from the kids. Long story, but to make it short: she figured it out.

I dont feel like explaining or interpreting it, I will leave this up to you. It is just not real.

She had gotten hold of my address/phone booklet. Most likely made a copy. So, she had all my family and co-workers phone numbers. She had written before to my co-workers but never to my family. So this time she sent the text message to all.

This is the message she wrote. From memory. That I was a vulnerable person and that so and so was controlling me and had turned me into an alcoholic, drug addict and chain smoker. That I was no longer the same person because she had brain washed me to be subservient to her. That she was with me because her ex husband was gay and she was desperate for a real man.

That last one surely got me proud! But the rest of it ... no comments. Given the life story you already heard from me, you interpret it. Now, my co-workers just had a big laught out with it. I merely replied, yeap, she got nuts! My family called to ask me if I was OK. By that time they alreday knew with whom they were dealing with. No big deal. But I must confess that I was embaressed.

It has since then become among us a sort of joke that I was a vulnerable person brain washed by a prostitute to be subservient to her. 'God bless.' She must had been looking at the mirror when she wrote that message.

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#14750 - 04/09/13 11:20 PM Re: Cant take it any more [Re: NoOne]
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No One,

Sounds like projection to me smile


Laught it off, it's probably the most harmless thing she's done to you yet!

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#14774 - 04/12/13 08:35 PM Re: Cant take it any more [Re: 1962]
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This time was harmless but her other attempts were ugly. I already mentioned that she sent incriminating letters with specific information to my employers and there was a full inquiry by the law office. I was cleared up but it was damaging and embarrassing. Also, the IRS, in that case I had to hire a lawyer. I was cleared up but wasnt easy and I did loose my little boat. She also sent text messages to all of my friends relatives with very ugly language. I wonder if this activity is considered harassment in court. In many of the text messages she accused me of things that I am even ashamed to mentioned. Not because it is true but because it is ugly. Very ugly. I worked for many years with someone. We always had a polite and friendly relationship. My 'dear' psychopath also wrote her a letter. I dont know what she wrote but my co-worker stopped being friendly. We now have only a minimal professional relationship. She calls me Mr or by title. I asked her what had happened and she mentioned to have received a letter but refused to talk about it. That one hurt me. As far as I know my 'dear' hasnt done anything in a year or so. In fact, since last summer. Her silence has me worry. I wished she would be gone and when she finally did I worry about her being gone. I find it difficult to believe that she got over and moved on.

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